self righteous atheists....

This is what I was trying to get to last night.

Can we give it a name?

 

simply playing devils advocate. no need for anger, as there is no hostility. this thread is for active discussion and lively but respectful debate.

you mentioned an angel/angel-type-thing and i assumed you meant along the lines of an angel, as thats what i had to go on. many people believe in angels beyond christians. in fact angel worship, if i'm not mistaken, was considered a threat to early monotheistic worship in the middle east.

i find it hard to believe the claim of christians, muslims and jews that they are truly monotheistic, but particularly christians. but all of them believe in
angels and often other beings of divine stock, with preternatural qualities.

in any other culture, these would be considered gods, just not very powerful gods.

i was only asking a very simple question, not antagonizing or harassing you.

 

how about "awe" or "wonder" :cheers2:

 

She wasn't an angel, not really. She was kind of more like an imaginary friend, my "Angel"

In some ways I suppose it could be seen as religious.

Y'know.. I was joking. I'm not angry and I don't feel antagonized or harassed. I'm used to chat where you can say that thing and no-one gives it a second thought. They know me in there too

Take it as a compliment

 

*rewind six hours*

There's awe and wonder in everyone's life

FIXED. arty:

 

If I was to look deep into my own heart, delve into my own experiences and be truly honest with myself, that idea appears to be the closest thing to an answer, the closest representation of reality as I have come to see it. No matter how much I search for 'something else' it just doesn't appear to be there.

I have come to accept that reality, yet for the sake of truth I will never make the leap of faith necessary to think it to be utterly and undeniably true. I do know however that I have reached a stage in my life where I am comfortable enough with the idea, so that any doubt I do have is for the sake of remaining open as opposed to doubting for the sake of avoiding painful truths.

 

werd. i especially liked the discipline. self-control builder. i still follow a number of the islamic teachings/customs, but i'm a lot more open to things. it kinda sucks i have to keep my beliefs on the DL mostly. what about you? have you given it up altogether?

 

Yeah, discipline was another thing that I found I got from religion.

I have given it up altogether. The main reason I gave up going to Church was because I really felt it was more important to use my Sunday Mornings to fight off my hangover and then study for school in the afternoon. The whole thing was about convenience. After a while I had a long hard look at what I really believed to be true and I decided that the only time I ever felt the presence of god was when I wanted to in my own head, when I needed to because the real world was too much to handle without some kind of supernatural crutch.

Why do you have to keep your beliefs on the dl?

 

Hmm. Religion and school never conflicted for me. I don't drink though. It started out I wasn't allowed to, but now I would just prefer not to as well. I cringe at the thought of not having control over myself.

If that's what you put your faith in, all the power to you. I believe in allah.

My family is traditional.

 

Yeah, but I don't think compassionate sex stacks up against just killing a man (in terms of pleasure, I mean).

 

Pfft, try having sex with a man after you've killed him and you will know the meaning of pleasure.

 

I'm sure we can get some scat in there too.

 

Fuck religion. I wan't shitty necrophilia.

 

Demi Gods?
Hanuman was a demi god I think.

 

This is my fav image of Mohammed.

 

making jokes is not the same as being self-righteous...

No one knows what happens to our energy after we die, that is a FACT. Some people have things that they believe, and that is called FAITH.

Faith is the whole point. If god could be proven, it would wreck the whole system, he'd be like a cop everybody hated. He'd show up at parties and nobody would be able to have any fun.

What gets me are the people who claim to have a certain faith, but they only practice the parts they like, aka the easy parts. Sorry, but if someone is going to claim to be Catholic*, and run around doing anything but act Catholic, I get to make fun.


*just an example, insert Jewish, Muslim, Christian, whatever.

 

i never understood why if a person claims to be religious to a certain extent, others feel the need to enslave them to every single principle.

 

I never understood why people don't uphold their beliefs, if they expect me to respect them.
It's hypocrisy, and I'm not going to worry too much about offending you.

 

If it is the specific "custom" they preach, but don't practice... then, werd, that's twisted.

Otherwise, if it's about their belonging to a religion, then it's not fair to make standards for them if you don't like it when people do that to you.

Who are you to judge them? So long as it isn't pushed onto you.

 

I'm not judging any one person. I made a joke about "god"...and I will continue to joke about religion, it is fair game as anything else.

Who are you to judge ME? (See, I can throw that word around too) I hope you also judge when it is safe to cross the street, and judge whether that mystery container of food in the fridge is safe to eat. Don't forget to judge who you share your secrets with, so they don't get spread around.