Salvia Vs DMT

agreed.
salvia feels dirty, confusing, almost psychotic for me.
dmt is clean, beautiful, earth shattering yet understandable, psychedelic.

the only similarity is in their intensity or hallucinations, but dmt is worth doing salvia is just confusing and anxiety provoking.

 

Salvia isn't enjoyable at all.

 

Both are amazing spiritual tools from God no doubt about it, salvia for the evil side and DMT for the good side of everything. I like them both but I have had more awesome of experiences on salvia.

 

To me, that's the point.

 

I read on this post that someone said that Salvia is trash. You obviously never really had a real Salvia experience or you were too scared to enter deeper into the Salvia trip! I have not yet tried DMT, but I have read about experiences and researched it for quite a while now. (Well I shouldnt say that I have never tried it, we all experience DMT while we sleep! Its the drug produced from our own brain while we sleep! Thats what a dream is... a DMT Trip, but much more stronger than the dosages people smoke!) I think that Salvia is easier to get and it is fully legal. Salvia is the most intense and most powerful hallucinogen known to man, and I think that Salvia is a real "religious or spiritual" experience that one can only obtain by the use of Salvia!
Why I have not tried DMT yet by smoking is because I do not want to go through all of that extracting bullshit. Its just too much for the trip for me. I do however want to try it someday. My suggestion is for people who have Salvia and DMT is to try it together in one trip! Now THAT would be an amazingly powerful trip. Salvia and DMT seem rather alike, but also differ in several areas of the trip. I think that mixing them might be a good idea.
Although this might "upset" the trip from Salvia. Those who have went deep into a Salvia trip know what I mean. The Goddess Salvia is very picky, if she does not like the state you are in or she thinks that you are corrupting the "Trip" by any means, she throws you out with little or no beneficial experience, hence a bad trip. Thats probably what the guy had who said Salvia is trash. To use Salvia the way it was ment, you must clear your mind and accept Salvia's control over you. Accept that you do not exist the way you see yourself now. Salvia & DMT are alike in that matter, just Salvia to the more extreme.
Both Salvia (Salvadorian A) and DMT are produced naturally in our brain. DMT is most used by our brain while we sleep, Salvia is also used while we sleep but in some moderation. I think to get the FULL BLOWN TRIP, I mean the COMPLETE journey into the Divine Realm we must use them both together! Do not compare them, UNITE THEM!

 

You would have to be out of your mind. I've done both Salvia and DMT, and I've been waiting for an opportunity to share a little story or two comparing them.

I've only done salvia one time, and I've only had a bad trip twice out of tens and tens of trips. The other bad trip was snorting way to much 2CB, but that's another story. Granted, I really should've had seen the bad factors that were playing a role before I hit the pipe. I had never done salvia, and had only heard of people smoking it in it's natural state in blunts similarly to weed. So when I heard that that was all we were smoking, and I was going to trip, I was intrigued. Usually, I try to be the gutsy one when it comes to psychs, so even though no one I was with knew what it was going to do, and it was the strongest he could find (70x I shit you not) I played guinea pig.

I had done DMT before, so I knew how salvia was suppose to be smoked. You cash the bowl in one hit, and hold it in until you turn purple - well, at least thats a good way to smoke an average dose of DMT. Not a full fucking pipe of salvia 70x. I hit a gigantic rip off of the piece, laid down in a bed and stared at the ceiling. I told myself that once the ceiling started with visuals, I would release the smoke and get off the bed to journey. But, the ceiling never moved, and I got impatient, exhaled, and tried to get up. No fucking way in heaven or hell could I move my body in any direction, by any means. It felt like a thousand little pokey hands were pinning me down to the bed and there wasn't a thing I could do about it. There's more details to the trip, but I just want to make the point that after I finally got off the damn bed, the visuals did start, and they were unlike any other visuals from any other psychs. Salvia, similarly to DMT, is what some of us like to call a psychedelic that shoots you out of a rocket, as opposed to those that plateau gradually.

Long story short,

Salvia's true potential is not known by many either because A) they're scared of the depth or B) salvia 70x is like three times the price of kind bud

DMT has hundreds of reports of alien like beings and communications appearing to those who are on it. I've only done DMT one time, and I had CEVs and OEVs fitting that exact description.

Salvia is much more easily regulated and dosed imo, but much more easy to have a bad trip

DMT has much more beautiful and organic visuals, as opposed to the geometrical nature of salvia. They will both shoot you out of a rocket with any type of decent dose though.

My verdict

(Salvia/DMT)=(1/1,000,000)

 

You cant compare the two substances, as they are of completely opposite polarities.

And in my experience, salvia has MUCH more potential than dimethyltryptamine

 

Dude how in the fuck are you going to say that salvia is trash???

 

Yess like you said united them I agree with you. I wonder if a whole complete world is out there when you combine both

 

I think salvia is trash too, but that's just my opinion on it. I can see why some people may be able to get something out of it, but I never really did. Although it was very interesting out in the woods.
N,N DMT is one of my favorites. Most visual substance I've ever taken. It's so intense though that getting deep on it is pretty much impossible, but you can actually observe how the slightest thought in the back of your mind can completely change the appearance of your surroundings.
Doing 300 mg. (yes 300, and no it wasn't weak) was like DMT was formally introducing me to the true fabric of reality. Describing that in more detail isn't possible for me as it was a good while ago, and as anyone that's done good amounts of deemster knows, you forget parts of the trip with time.

 

I've had a religious experience on Saliva. I have yet to try DMT but I'm certain it will not go 'further' than I had with my most profound Salvia experience but possibly a different nature. I think these _____ vs. _____ drug comparison threads sometimes get diluted by which drug people prefer. I mean a transcendental experience, ++++ Shulgin experience is really the furthest you can go. I've had it on Salvia, Ketamine and LSD. I have tried 5 meo dmt as well. Why is ketamine never brought into this debate? Ketamine can be just as intense as either of those two.

 

I've never had a hole as intense as a high dose of L. It can get pretty ridiculous though for sure.
Layed down after railing a gagger once, and had my perspective zoom out to that of like a camera in my room. Which then closed in on me, and as it was rotating through the wall it revealed I was connected to a machine. My consciousness then went to another body in a place like a mall. I was trying out a video game like machine there that was simulating life, and that was what this existance had been.

 

OMFG.... You are a genius, i've always tried to compare that effect to something. It's like one of the only effects that is common in all my Ketamine trips. The sedation from ketamine makes it harder to have 'bad trips' but in terms of taking you out there, ketamine takes you to some pretty fucking weird places. Like salvia it can be kind of dark in nature too.

I need to find that Tripping quotes section and post this but I gave a buddy of mine a k hole dose for his first time with ketamine because he maintained this ego/arrogance with psychedelics like he could trip on anything and it wouldn't phase him. I could tell he had an intense trip but He didn't talk to me for 2 hours, he finally picks up all his stuff and i'm like "WHat are you doing, are you leaving?" and he just turns around to me and says "Ketamine was made by the devil" and leaves.

 

HAHAHA That's great.
I know a couple people like that...giving me some ideas .

 

man, i was reading about ketamine in erowid right now and wtf! why would anyone in the world want to do this shit?

 

If you are into ecstasy at all you should try a K hole dose just as you are coming off the E. (+ 4 hrs) Your brain is still soft and suggestive from the E and your body still feels good and a K hole just makes your brain feel like it just malfunctioned. If the brain is a 'computer' A kitty flip causes a system error and a need to reboot hahaha.

I did inject ketamine once while candyflipping and that was pretty magical but it was at the peak of the L and E so those kept me a bit attached to reality.

 

Done it .
It was probably the most visual hole I've ever had, but it's impossible to remember almost all of it.

 

Yah amnesia tends to be a downside to K. You've really had more intense experiences from LSD than that?

I can't imagine LSD being very pleasureable at a level of intensity like that.

 

Oh, for sure man.
Every single moment isn't always pleasurable, but I've never had a trip with lucy that I didn't enjoy.

 

How many hits did you take to acheive that level of dissassociation?