Salvia on Dr.Phil

I heard if you chew on the leaves the trip can last as long as a hour.

 

I tried that once, it didn't work but I stopped after the first 1/2 hour quid (the site I looked at said to chew two 'quids' (something like that), half an hour each. It was a pretty miserable task though, so I said screw it.

 

go ahead and tell me what I missed.

You asked for a video. I told you how to find one.

oh, so there is a "vid" there, just not up to your standards. You left out the part about needing high quality out of the one full line that I read.

Relax tiger.

 

the best line from that video:
"I saw my mom turn into an african american."

 

hahahaha yea

or i like when dr phil was like "it makes you STUPID!"

to someone whos never tried psychedelics but watches others trip, they will indeed appear to be stupid. but we all know how it actually is

 

i think its very ignorant of people to judge and cry out against things they know nothing about...and the only way to truly understand any mind altering substance is to try it and experience the effects first hand..otherwise i dont think they have any right to question the legality of it, unless of course they were directly affected by it. Like if a relative died due to whatever drug it is.

 

Read it how you'd like, I felt like I stated that the immediate and intense effects of salvia were the reasons why I think it's just a garbage drug. But it's true, I don't see any good in salvia and wouldn't care at all if it were illegal.

As a drug user, I've come to accept that these types of things are illegal and that most of them should be. I don't see why salvia should be an exception givens its effects and when has illegality stopped people from getting their ganj, coke, heroine, acid, mushrooms, meth, etc? I'm sure if salvia were illegal the market would entirely die out though haha

 

I have to dissagree as people have been using it for centuries and will continue to do so.

The recent salvia hype is nothing but a lot of misuse of this drug. True psyconauts will continue to explore salvia even when made illegal.

 

I don't think the market would die out.

some people use the plant to learn.

it's going to become illegal simply because the ease of access has lead to a lot of idiots taking it and expecting it to be a party drug. after it's made illegal, the market would become smaller, for sure, because the average idiot posting their salvia trip on youtube will not bother with the plant any longer after it's not so easy to get.

but after these people are weeded out, I believe there would still be people who accept the plant for what it is and continue to use it.

 

right on.

beat me to it :]

 

You're going in the wrong direction. The point isn't to make MORE things illegal for the sake of fairness; the point is to put an end to the idiocy that prohibited the substances in the first place.

 

I believe in fairness, sadly. I wouldn't be too thrilled to have children growing up in a world where drugs like meth, coke and heroine were legal and I couldn't see the fairness or justification in legalizing LSD and shrooms just because they're "soft drugs" but not other illicit substances. Just think of all the disenfranchised crackheads.

I'm all for people having the freedom to try things but there are drugs that just shouldn't be legalized and I'm not one for double standards. Drugs are drugs to me. I have my fun, accept the risks and don't think of it as a big deal because I do my best to be smart about it. If you're careful, any drug is as good as legal.

 

So you would rather have your heroin addicted son OD, take unknown chemicals, or go to jail were your son will have painful withdraws, then have your heroin addicted son get an accurately measured dose, have a reliable, possibly governmentally regulated source, clean needles, and the ability to attend rehab.

why?

 

in my opinion (those magic words that shield me from trolls) salvia is one step above huffing paint, its a total high school bullshit "drug"

 

I don't like the idea of drugs being legal, especially ones that mess with someone's psyche. Hallucinogenics are scary shit in the hands of someone with a fragile mind, sorry I feel differently than you. I know of acid casualties who've only tripped 15, 20 times and I think that's scary considering I've dropped acid more times than people who've died while on the drug.

Nicotine and alcohol are legal but those are drugs of attrition, it takes a long time before you going to start feeling the effects of alcoholism or develop lung cancer or heart disease from smoking - I will admit that smokers cough develops pretty quickly though haha and one night of drunken driving is a pretty sure way to end a life or two or three... But heroin? I can't imagine a government that regulated that kind of immediate self destruction but hey you're a psychonaut and I'm just a guy who just trips and marvels trivial things like trees, sunsets and does some casual thinking. I get what you're saying about treatment vs. jail time. I just don't have a problem with drugs being illegal on principle of their largely destructive nature.

 

I'm sorry, but the decision to ruin my life (or risk ruining it) lies in no one's hands but my own. Most of the "social cost" of hard drugs is due to their illicit nature. I've even heard that it would be less expensive to simply give addicts their drugs than paying police officers to arrest them, and wasting tax dollars so these misguided individuals can rot in prison. The cost of liberty is responsibility, maybe you can't handle it, but that doesn't mean no one can. For someone so interested in fairness, you sure are eager to take the side of the people with the biggest guns.

My stance on prohibition predates my personal drug use by a number of years.

 

The fact they're drugs of attrition makes it worse, you do acid, or you do coke, or you blow an OC or dope, you know you're fucked up, end of story. Drunk people often refuse to acknowledge how drunk they are or are ok with it because it's so socialably acceptable. Forget about deaths related to tobacco smoking or alcohol use, if you just take the amount of people who will die from drunk driving this year, it's more then all the other deaths from other forms of intoxicated driving, all other drug overdoses or drug related deaths combined.

Now if we factor in the amount of people who will die other ways from alcohol use..............

Then add in tobacco

And the fact no drugs no matter what really causes cancer like cigarettes do

Also add in the fact if crack were made legal today you probably wouldn't go out and try it, nor would most other people, but people that want drugs will find drugs(we do right?) and add in the fact most people who OD and die from hard drugs is normally from the cut in the drug, pure heroin and cocaine are pretty clean and hard to OD on had they been the norm.

 

we need a revolution. plain and simple.

 

this sounds true.. but I do like Salvia moar than I like chloroform...
but I Can always and forever get Chloroform...
HEY KIDDIES ?YOU WANT SOME

 

i remember in some english class years back we were reading a book and in it some old lady killed her cat by wrapping it up in a blanket full of chloroform.