Sacred Blood

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by Applespark, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. Cosmic Butterfly

    Cosmic Butterfly Member

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    We are the universe....Duh. ;) :D
     
  2. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    To me, there is. But that's just my opinion - I am not trying to tell other people what to believe. This is a forum, where we are supposed to post our opinions, not necessarily change other peoples spiritual beliefs nor criticize something so individually-based. So, cudos to you for believing the uterus is spiritually important. To me, it ain't. Simple as that.
     
  3. Snowdancer

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    You're whole message was cool & brought up concepts I have never thought of before. The things I didn't snip though... Amazing revelations!

    The second paragraph below leads me to thinking. Women are considered the peaceful ones & men the fighters. Maybe it is all related to the fact that women have less need to draw blood.

     
  4. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Seems semen would be more sacred; it is, with an egg, what actually creates the new life. Menstrual blood is just the remains of what might of been and what will never be. Failed life, so to speak. You should be romanticising the egg, not the blood. ;)

    But really, I'd say the whole body and every part of it is equally sacred. The miracale of life, you know?

    By the way...I saw someone say women created the world. It seems like they kinda needed men around too, haha. No men, no women. No women, no men. Kinda neat how we depend on each other like that. I hate it when feminists act like men are not necessary except as sperm donors.
     
  5. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Well now that they can artificially fertilize eggs...we may not need you men around anymore!! J/K I love my man :D
     
  6. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    Well a thread about sacred semen would have not been started in womans issues
     
  7. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    No one here is saying that at all. We can and are celebrating our Moon Days. It doesn't mean men aren't important, it is just that this is a Moon Blood discussion.
     
  8. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Besides, I think that there are many more men that look at women as sex objects then women who only look at men as sperm donors...
     
  9. purplemoonbeams

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    It sacred because it is like an inner death and that egg could have been made into a human life. And it shows that everything is working correctly and that you can one day have children. :)
     
  10. AutumnAuburn

    AutumnAuburn Senior Member

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    But in some instances, that is all that you are. Many a child is reared and raised with his father never laying an eye on him. Also, some species of animal can procreate, without males. In that case, you aren't needed, at all.

    And what's wrong with women proclaiming their specialty? Are we not? Before patriarchy, everyone worshipped Goddess. What's wrong with reclaiming that tradition?

    Why is it okay for men and women to worship only a male GOD, but when women worship GODDESS (perhaps even in conjunction with GOD), people start acting like we're leaving men out completely? Big babies! Oh, you poor things, you feel left out. How do you think Goddess has felt for the last 3000 years??? But I digress...

    This thread isn't about hating men. Which I don't, by the way (but men do have a way of pissing me off-especially in the religion department). It's about the celebration of our sacred Moon blood. Which men don't have.

    Please don't try to make this a male-bashing thread, simply because we are celebrating women...
     
  11. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    Wooooooohooooo thank goddess
     
  12. yogi for peace

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    I think its cool. I mean, yeah guys are scared of it because of not understanding it. Kinda like the first time you women had your period (assuming no one had EVER talked to you about it) its just new and unfamiliar. When light(knowledge) is shed on the subject then i think most men aren't scared anymore.

    As far as the PMS deal -- I honestly think im 95% accurate with my accusations hehehe. BUT! I've learned it doesn't matter if im right or wrong i get yelled at either way so I don't say those three letters anymore

    *winks at applespark*

    as far as the death of the egg thing. i can see how thats sacred because to me, life is equally as important as death.

    inhale
    exhale

    its all a dynamic play of consciousness.

    And maybe apple can answer this better than me, but I think i'm pretty good about letting her bitch/cry/happy/ stuff when she's in that zone -- unless its really fucking with me.

    What do you think babe? I've been good lately eh?
     
  13. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    I don't have normal periods so there really isn't anyway you can tell if I am pmsing. I just feel it isn't nice to acuse someone of pmsing because it give off a rude conitation because it implies that you are boing a bitch etc. And it implies that you are only this way when you are pmsing which as otehrs have said just isnt true and absolutely offensive. That would be like me noticing your frustrated about something and going " you need to mastarbate don't you" assuming your frustrated because your having a testoserone spike. pms is a totaly natural thing and we should be alowed to let it ride itself out.
     
  14. AutumnAuburn

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    I think the sacred act of sex does not have to be between man and woman, per-se. It can be between people of any sex. And love doesn't make babies, the coming together of sperm and egg does. You don't need love (or sex) for that. However, I think that making love can be very sacred, especially when done in ritual.

    And just because you choose to honor female, during a particular forum thread, does not mean that you dishonor male. This is not an "all or nothing" situation.

    And men do not menstruate. Plain and simple. You cannot honor the Moon Blood within you, because you don't have it. However, you can honor the blood within your woman and you can be supportive of the fact that she honors that, within herself.

    And you can avoid dishonoring the Great Female, by not trying to push the Great Male into all of Her mysteries and ceremonies.
     
  15. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    Well, to sum it up (without going into a crazy long list of specific) - mysteries. The unknown, so things like the universe, stars, why we're here, how life began, the bottom of the ocean, that part of us that isn't purely physical which defines who we are, sharing my body with someone, etc.

    I think, in part at least, because menstruating is a simple evolutionary turn that has been explained through biology, it doesn't hold mystery to me, and therefore isn't in any way sacred. I should repeat that I have not menstruated for over a year, due to my choice of birth control.




    I exist! I was an accident, pure and simple. Not that my parents didn't love me, and didn't try to make a go of it as a couple afterwards, but they weren't in love when I was conceived, they were just messing around.

    I might add that in my "spirituality" I believe in a multifaceted being, represented by all the god/esses that have ever been worshipped. However, I'm not entirely sure it created life. Maybe just guided us, like an occasional helping hand. Or maybe designed things so that life would create itself (if that makes sense).

    Anywho, I strongly disagree with the term god as representing two genders, particularly if you look at most christian perspectives on it (I realize there are supercool unitarians etc out there, but generally speaking...) because god is so strongly defined by christian mythology. But, that's just me being nitpicky and less liberal than I thought I was ;)


    Back to the point of the thread - cool on those women out there who feel their blood is sacred. I don't, but that's just me.
     
  16. Super_Grrl

    Super_Grrl Crazy love

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    Michael, please don't be scared away... I know this is a "Womyn's Forum" but it's also neat to hear the male side.
     
  17. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    The power of the sacred blood is recognized by virtually all cultures.

    I read a good book that described how the ancients in Sumer made something they called "starfire" from the menstrual blood of a Goddess. It was reportedly able to give you immortality.
     
  18. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    My grandma told me there never used to be PMS, and that she never went through all the problems you now read about when your period stops.
     
  19. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    Um, BlackGuardXIII, maybe your grandma just doesn't remember having PMS? I'm sure it was quite some time ago for her, KWIM? Because I for one, sure as heck get it. It's extremely bad, and I really hate it. I can only imagine what I'll be going through in menopause.

    Ugghh, scarey thought.

    Peace.
     
  20. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    of corse life itself was much different but there is an aparent hormonal change durring that time that is indisputeable to me. I KNOW iget it sometimes. Some women get it much worse then others to the point they ned to be seen by their doc and others don't get any at all. The point isnt do you get pms the point is do you think your blood is sacred. yes no and why.
     

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