Russia will attack America SOON (please read)

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  1. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Campbell,


    What do you think of these questions ? The funny thing is, at least, I'll bet that deep inside, that we share very similar beliefs. If you saw someone injured by the roadside we would both stop and help? If we saw someone in anguish we would feel, "gee I hope that person is alright"? If we saw people doing a foriegn dance we would not think bad of them because it is foreign, would we ?


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  2. SpliffVortex

    SpliffVortex Senior Member

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    What we should had done was after 1945 is = look Germans Hitler had great ideas but he got a bit way off base so we are very sorry for the Fuher . And by the way we want you to have France anyway . and do us a favor teach French how to built a decent car.
     
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    "Guatemalan Intervention: CIA orchastrate the overthrow of the government in 1954 which lead to some 100,000 civilian deaths by the newly installed dictatorship government." Castro over the last 40 years is resposible for far more dead in south and central america. They are still killing each other in south america with guns +ammo and ideals sent in the 60s 70s 80s from Cuba. While any intellegent person in south america knows Castro took Cuba the most advance country in central and south america in 1959 and turn it into a Haiti.
     
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    actualy a better idea would be divide the world up into 1000 squar mile districts put every living persons name in a lotery the winner gets a random district to rule over for only a week

    best way to limmit the dammage us stupid humans can do
     
  5. SpliffVortex

    SpliffVortex Senior Member

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    They allready do that in afghanistan but it dont work very well among the warlords.
     
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    "Castro over the last 40 years is resposible for far more dead in south and central america. They are still killing each other in south america with guns +ammo and ideals sent in the 60s 70s 80s from Cuba. While any intellegent person in south america knows Castro took Cuba the most advance country in central and south america in 1959 and turn it into a Haiti."

    Indeed. Though at least there healthcare and education systems are excellent.

    "First of all wars did not start in 1939."

    Indeed, I obviously do not dispute that, as human beings have been killing each other for thousands of years.
    I think you misunderstood my point. I was simply trying to illustrate the fact that since the beginning of world war 2 the world has been constantly at war (with much higher casualties than pre-ww1/ww2).

    "second communism did not spread the russian force them after invading half of the european continent."

    Indeed.

    'Spread' , 'Enforced'...Same difference. Let's not nit-pick! ;)

    "vietnam was a French colonie and those son of bitches should be the last one in the world to own a colonie."

    Why should the French be the "last ones in the world to own a colony?" . What made the French any worse than say the British, Germans, or Belgian imperialists were?
     
  7. SpliffVortex

    SpliffVortex Senior Member

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    Why should the French be the "last ones in the world to own a colony?" . What made the French any worse than say the British, Germans, or Belgian imperialists were? after we saved theyr ass from the germans they though they were going to own Vietnam after 1945 thats why.
     
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    "and do us a favor teach French how to built a decent car."

    lol, what do you have against the French?

    Apart from Thiera Henry. ;)
     
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    ^^***better than the NHS
     
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    "after we saved theyr ass from the germans they though they were going to own Vietnam after 1945 thats why."

    Yeah, but come on. What about the British attaching Indian dissidents to cannons and blwoing them too pieces??

    That's pretty bad.
     
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    or the Spanish Conquistadors destroying the entire Inca and Aztec civilizations?
     
  13. SpliffVortex

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    Bad Cuban Medicine

    by Lawrence Solomon


    National Post
    January 18, 2003


    Second in a series: Cuba's two-tiered health system. While tourists and government officials are taken care of, there's little left for general public Lawrence Solomon

    [​IMG]CREDIT: Kagan McLeod, National PostAn illustration of Fidel Castro running on a tread-mill.

    The shelves in the neighbourhood pharmacy, like those in the other neighbourhood pharmacies I had seen in Havana, were half empty and full of dust, the small selection of medicines on display arranged in lonely rows of old-fashioned little bottles. Customers were as scarce as the medicines. One bottle on a shelf contained a fungicide, another aloe ointment. A third countered diarrhea. The odds of finding a specific medicine to treat a particular malady were vanishingly small. "What is this bottle for?" I asked the woman behind the counter. "Memory," she said. "It's good for memory and for circulation."

    "Do you have Aspirin," I asked, wondering if average Cubans could obtain the world's most familiar pharmaceutical staple. The answer was no. Her pharmacy only stocked drugs manufactured in Cuba and available for purchase in pesos, the currency used by Cuba's poor. "For Aspirin, you must go there," she said, pointing to a nearby hotel that housed a pharmacy for customers able to pay in dollars.

    The "dollar pharmacy" did indeed have aspirin, along with other pain killers, cough medicines, syringes, Band-Aids, Alka-Seltzer and all the other common medicinal products familiar to Westerners. Its shelves were piled high -- literally to the ceiling -- with some 500 items, including tampons, disposable diapers, and other drug store items that were more conveniences than necessities. Pesos -- the national currency and all that most poor have access to -- bought nothing in this government-run establishment. The dollar pharmacy only welcomed dollars, and those who carried them.

    Earlier in the day, a Cuban had stopped me on the street, pulled out his asthmatic child's puffer, and asked for help in getting it refilled. He could not get the drug, he explained, but I, as a tourist, could. Begging for medicines is common in Havana -- next to begging for money to feed children, it is the most common plea -- because the government won't use its scarce foreign exchange to import basic drugs that the populace needs. Doctors won't even prescribe drugs for the poor that aren't available in the local pharmacies -- the state frowns upon that -- but many will write the name of the drug that's needed on a scrap of paper. "This is what you need," the doctors will tell desperate patients, in effect sending them out into the streets on a mission of what can amount to life or death for themselves or their children. Cubans with access to dollars -- typically those in the tourist industry who receive tips in dollars -- can obtain the drugs they need. Others have relatives in the United States who can ship them. The rest -- middle class Cubans included -- must resort to begging, the black market or, increasingly, to prostitution.

    Cuba is renowned for having a universal health-care system and, in fact, doctors are plentiful and doctor visits are free. But without access to antibiotics, insulin, heart drugs and other life-saving medicines, doctors cannot perform their duties. Too often, for lack of medicine, doctors have no choice but to amputate limbs, or to put patients through painful therapies without painkillers. In one celebrated case, Dr. Hilda Molina, the founder of Havana's International Center for Neurological Restoration, returned the medals that Fidel Castro had awarded her for her work and resigned in protest, outraged that Cubans were denied critical care in order to treat foreigners.

    Byron (not his real name) is a 30-year-old doctor in Cuba, a former medical student from Africa who came to Cuba on a Commonwealth country scholarship. Because he speaks fluent English and French, and understands three other European languages, the government assigns him to treating tourists whom, he confirms, lack for nothing in Cuba. The tourist hospitals are excellent, the quality of care delivered to a high standard, as high as any you will find in any Western country, he says. The hospital pharmacies provide whatever drugs tourists require.

    Care for top government officials and those in the military is also excellent. "They also lack for nothing," Byron said. But after providing for the needs of tourists and the top government officials, the health system has little left for the general public. I asked Byron about a man I had seen sitting on the pavement, wrapping raw lesions on his foot with filthy rags. The care with which he was tending his gaping holes made an impression on me, and made me wonder why he lacked proper care. Byron identified the man's malady -- a disease that slaves had brought to Cuba from Africa 400 years ago -- as one easily treated, but not with the medicines available in the peso pharmacies.

    "The government doesn't give a shit about the poor," he stated matter-of-factly. "The poor have no medicines, no painkillers, no nothing."

    Before Castro seized power in his 1959 Revolution, Cuba had one of the world's best medical systems, its ratio of one physician per 960 patients ranked 10th by the World Health Organization (England, in contrast, had one physician per 1,200 people, Mexico one physician per 2,400 people). Cuba had Latin America's lowest infant mortality rate, comparable to Canada's and better than France's, Japan's and Italy's. Its population was well fed, with a per capita food consumption that was the third highest in Latin America.

    Today, Cuba ranks last in Latin American per capita food consumption -- cereals and especially meat and milk consumption are down dramatically -- but it has not lost its medical capabilities. Instead, Cuba has reoriented its medical system to the task of earning foreign exchange. To do this, Cuba pioneered "health tourism" through agencies such as Servimed, which markets medical services abroad. Cuba is "the ideal destination for your health," it boasts, frankly admitting to being "a tourist subsystem." With an annual growth rate of 20% in health tourism, Servimed has done well in its task of marrying health and tourism. Many Italians now couple their annual vacations to Cuba with their annual dental work, while others come for cut-rate knee replacements or eye surgery. But perhaps Cuba's most popular medical service, and the one it heavily promotes to tourists abroad, is cosmetic surgery. Cuban doctors have become expert at breast implants, tummy tucks, liposuction and nose jobs, giving some doctors international reputations while letting them serve the Revolution as one of the country's best earners of foreign exchange.

    It's a "win" for the elite doctors and a "win" for privileged patients, who benefit from what has become the world's most extreme two-tiered medical system. It's also a "win" for the Cuban elite, from Castro on down, whom Byron describes as participating in a fitness culture. "When I treat tourists of 75 years of age, I am treating fit people with many healthy years ahead of them," he said. This is also the case with members of the Cuban elite. "Castro is fit, the others at the top in government, at age 75, are fit. They take care of themselves.

    "But an ordinary Cuban of 63 or 64 years is already feeble, an old man." For the poor, beaten down by the system and denied basic medical care, the medical system is all "lose."
     
  14. SpliffVortex

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    YES the british also had theyr feet stuck in blood in india.
     
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    1. An enduring myth is that 1950's Cuba was a socially and economically backward country whose development was jump-started by the Castro government. In fact, according to readily-available historical data, Cuba was a relatively advanced country in 1958, certainly by Latin American standards and, in some areas, by world standards. The data appear to show that Cuba has at best maintained what were already high levels of development in health and education, but at an extraordinary cost to the overall welfare of the Cuban people. These include access to "basics" such as adequate levels of food and electricity, but also access to consumer goods, the availability of which have increased significantly in other Latin American countries in recent decades.
    It is true that Cuba's infant mortality rate is the best in Latin America today, but it also was the best in Latin America -- and the 13th lowest in the world -- in pre-Castro Cuba. Cuba also has improved the literacy of its people, but Cuba had an excellent educational system and impressive literacy rates in the 1950's.

    On the other hand, many economic and social indicators have declined since the 1959 revolution. Pre-Castro Cuba ranked third in Latin America in per capita food consumption; today, it ranks last. Per capita consumption of cereals, tubers, and meat are today all below 1950's levels. The number of automobiles in Cuba has fallen since the 1950's -- the only country in Latin America for which this is the case. The number of telephone lines in Cuba also has been virtually frozen at 1950's levels. Cuba once ranked first in Latin America and fifth in the world in television sets per capita. Today, it barely ranks fourth in Latin America and is well back in the ranks globally.

    Cuba's rate of development of electrical power since the 1950's ranks behind every other country in Latin America except Haiti. Cuba is the only country in the hemisphere for which rice production today is lower than it was four decades ago. By virtually any measure of macroeconomic stability, Cuba was in far better shape in 1958 than it is today. Finally, the Castro government shut down what was a remarkably vibrant media sector in the 1950's, when the relatively small country had 58 daily newspapers of differing political hues and ranked eighth in the world in number of radio stations.

    METHODOLOGY

    This paper assesses Cuba's level of development in a variety of economic and social indicators during the revolutionary period (1959-present), especially relative to that of other countries during the same period. It relies most extensively on UN data, particularly from the statistical yearbook and demographic yearbook, which are considered among the most prestigious data compendiums in the development field. Trade data is derived from the IMF's Direction of Trade Statistics, which provides a consistent data series dating back to the 1950's. For the various international comparisons and rankings listed below, only those countries acquiring independence prior to 1958 and having relatively consistent data available for the period 1955-present have been included. (The former stipulation excludes many highly-developed Caribbean countries from consideration.)

    HEALTH

    The health care system is often touted by many analysts as one of the Castro government's greatest achievements. What this analysis ignores is that the revolutionary government inherited an already-advanced health sector when it took power in 1959.

    Cuba's infant mortality rate of 32 per 1,000 live births in 1957 was the lowest in Latin America and the 13th lowest in the world, according to UN data. Cuba ranked ahead of France, Belgium, west Germany, Israel, Japan, Austria, Italy, Spain, and Portugal, all of which would eventually pass Cuba in this indicator during the following decades.

    Today, Cuba remains the most advanced country in the region in this measure, but its world ranking has fallen from 13th to 24th during the Castro era, according to UN Data. Also missing from the conventional analysis of Cuba's infant mortality rates is its staggering abortion rate -- 0.71 abortions per live birth in 1991, according to the latest UN data -- which, because of selective termination of "high-risk" pregnancies, yields lower numbers for infant mortality. Cuba's abortion rate is at least twice the rate for the other countries in the table below for which data are available.

    In terms of physicians and dentists per capita, Cuba in 1957 ranked third in Latin America, behind only Uruguay and Argentina -- both of which were more advanced than the United States in this measure. Cuba's 128 physicians and dentists per 100,000 people in 1957 was the same as the Netherlands, and ahead of the United Kingdom (122 per 100,000 people) and Finland (96).

    Unfortunately, the UN statistical yearbook no longer publishes these statistics, so more recent comparisons are not possible, but it is completely erroneous to characterize pre-Revolutionary Cuba as backward in terms of healthcare.

     
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    In terms of television sets per capita, 1950's Cuba was far ahead of the rest of Latin America and was among the world's leaders. Cuba had 45 television sets per 1,000 inhabitants in 1957, by far the most in Latin America and fifth in the world, behind only Monaco, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom. In fact, its closest competitor in Latin America was Venezuela, which had only 16 television sets per 1,000 people. Today, Cuba has 170 televisions per thousand, behind Uruguay (232 per capita), Argentina (220), and brazil (209). Of these three countries, Uruguay in 1957 had fewer than one television per 1,000 people, and Argentina and Brazil each had five per 1,000 people -- far behind Cuba's 45 per capita.
     
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    There has also been a reduction in the number of radio and television broadcasting stations, although the UN no longer reports these statistics. However, it should be noted that in 1957, Cuba had more television stations (23) than any other country in Latin America, easily outdistancing larger countries such as Mexico (12 television stations) and Venezuela (10). It also led Latin America and ranked eighth in the world in number of radio stations (160), ahead of such countries as Austria (83 radio stations), United Kingdom (62), and France (50), according to the UN statistical yearbook
     
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    Not only has this thread gotten very off track, but all you people are fools. I came here to try to warn people, perhaps even save a few. But, I guess that is pointless when you are warning people who will never believe. You call my claims ridiculous, but they will happen. If I told you on 9/10 that the next day the Twin Towers would fall to the ground in one hours time you would laugh at my words, like you are now. But 9/11 did happen, no one could believe it when they saw it happen. It looked like a some kind of movie if you were watching on TV. You people laugh about these things because you have not had to deal with them. Other than some rising gas prices most people have not been effected by 9/11 or the Iraq War. It does not seem very serious to you, but if in the city you lived in people blew themselves up in the streets on a REGULAR basis I think these things would matter much more. Do you think that these "Islamic Radicals" would not use dirty bombs or nukes if they had them. Ofcousre they would use them. They are tought from birth that killing the "devils" will bring them into a heaven with 70 virigins. Well these "devils" are us and they view America as the "Great Satan". Listen there are many many powerful people in the world that would like to see us all die. Terror will reach your doorstep. Maybe not today, tomorrow, maybe not even for another year or two. But all of you will be effected soon enough. These wars are no joking matter. For those of you who believe in other things than God (Christian/Jewish one) wake UP!!!! People claim that humans use to be aps that evolved mentally. So let me get this straight then. If we are going to say God never existed and man came to being through chance, well then that means that we beat odds that are so vastly uneven it is behind our minds. Second, it means that there is nothing special about mankind. Now calling us intelligent life means that everyother lfie form on this planet could have mentally evolved also. So...why did'nt they? It's not like we are the oldest spieces on this planet. Why is that man is the only animal to have conflict of mind. We are the only anaimal who has morals and sees different thigns as good or evil. There is a huge difference between what people call intelligent life and the workings of the human mind. We are very very very speical. To believe that we came about by chance is absurd. Use your minds people....God gave them to you for a reason.
     
  19. natural23

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    Jerry,

    Thank You for the warning. Some of what you say makes sense to me, but alot of it I put on hold because I have no conclusion - I just watch and listen to my heart. Please read my posts again if it is comfortable, if it seems correct (I sometimes try to save my eyes and some time by skimming - trying to be economical). Some of the questions that I asked Campbell he did not answer, and I think that they were good questions. Thank You again Jerry (am making dinner - will be back to converse soon).

    Sincerely,

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  20. SpliffVortex

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    after i survive the cold war in the late 60s 70s 80s im not worry about a bunch of camel riders.
     
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