Russia and Trump are a psyop

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by unfocusedanakin, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. tjr1964

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    Read the Mueller Report, Trump was not exonerated.
    Trumpsters are too far gone in their Mass Psychosis to ever be relavent or to come back to reality .
     
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  2. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    As I posted elsewhere... “Arguments, speculation—conspiracy theories of all kind. The usual thing, right? No one is ever simply assassinated anymore. Ever since the Kennedys, it is always a matter of how many stories you can invent to explain the same body of facts. That is the great pleasure of conspiracy theory—not explanation, but narrative. It is like Scheherazade.” - Kim Stanley Robinson
     
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  3. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    I've wondered what the Ukrainian invasion would had looked like if Trump had still been president at the time. One of Trump's first actions, when he was elected, was to deny NATO aid to Ukraine. It is well known that Trump and Putin were buddies and Trump was surely helping Putin setup this invasion to go easily for Russians. I believe Trump said there would be no war if he was president. There might be a sliver of truth to that. There would have been an invasion, but no war, because Trump would have NATO turn it's back to the invasion. Yes, it would have saved America billions in the very short term. That was Trump's excuse back in 2016, USA contributing more money than Europe, supposedly. I don't know the figures but I'm sure there's a cost to being the world's police, there's also plenty benefits too.

    So I think Trump would have allowed Putin to quickly take Ukraine. Without NATO weapons to hold Russians off there would be less damage and losses initially. Then Russia would probably have begun mass executions of Ukrainian people, a quiet genocide over time while the world looked away. It is also well known that China has been planning an invasion of Taiwan. Putin and Xi Jinping are also good buddies and even the Russian and China Militaries have coperated and trained together. There were supposed leaked documents indicating China was going to invade that fall of 2022, had Putin's invasion of Ukraine gone smoothly. That was likely the plan. It would have been much harder for Trump's America to turn a blind eye to the Chinese invasion of Taiwan. America has billions of investments there. There goes all the money Trump saved in Ukraine, and there goes the world, probably nuclear WW3...
     
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  4. tjr1964

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    Putin has an Alliance with China, Syria, Hoothies, Hamas, Hezbolah and Iran . The war in the Ukraine has reduced Russia to a junior partner status , with China as the " Big Daddy".

    Biden is doing a good job, by supplying Ukraine with weapons and military / Humanitarian aid. If not, we would take a huge dump on Putin's ambition to take back Soviet territory and we would wipe our asses on the Russian flag .... that will cost some many American lives, but we could easily beat them, from what they have demonstrated in Ukraine.

    Trump and MAGA, are Sarogates to that alliance, their propaganda totally reflects Putin's GRU/ SVR/ FDS Propaganda that you see on OAN, Fox (No news) and News Max.
    Don't be surprised if Trump's Terrorists start working with Russia ( obvious since 2016), Iran, Syria and China to do an attack, subvert our Democracy and Rule of Law .... at this point , US Laws and the Constitution are in the way of Trump starting a White Supremic/ Oligarchic / Heirocracy that will be on par with Hitler's 3rd Reicht .
     
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  5. Justine_dinogirl

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    Ideological subversion has been inflicted on u.s.a by Russia for longer than 30 years. The post-soviets inherited the turn-key operation that was left by the kgb, the techniques of which were taught to Russia by German scientists after the fall of Berlin in russias operation paperclip equivalent. Many of the same techniques were used by Joseph goebles in the propaganda systems of the third Reich. I'm not one to compare trump to adolf Hitler (he always reminded me more of Mussolini) but just like hitler trump is neurologically conditioned to talk in hypnotic speech patterns behind the podium.
    After the national demoralization process come the conspiracy theories. The conspiratorial disinformation narratives like those of the 3R, QANON, ect., Are designed to always tie back into themselves as a closed system of ever expanding rabbit holes, "malice in wonderland" i call it. The discussion of ideological subversion is a rabbit hole in its self
     
  6. Justine_dinogirl

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    Believe it or not it's not blackmail, it's psychological conditioning, plus he owed big money.
     
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  7. ~Zen~

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    Now that is interesting... The comparisons are inevitable, and convincing.
     
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  8. relaxxx

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    This is not even a conspiracy anymore. These are facts. Every single word out of Donald 'Hitler' Trump and Elon 'Goebbels' Musk mouths are evil lies to destroy democracy and enslave the west. That this evil crooked bastard can call Zelenskyy a dictator and claim HE attacked Russia... and get away with such Ludicrous lies. The hypocrisy is headspinning. Did you hear this shameful delusional piece of shit talk about destroyed 'golden domes' as if Moscow was in ruins? While Russians flew fucking drone attacks on fucking Chernobyl!!!!

    Don't even get me started on his threats towards Canada's sovereignty. Trump is a criminal on so many levels now, a sane man couldn't even keep track of it.

    FUCK!
     
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  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    You mean it isn't a conspiracy theory...it is a full blown conspiracy involving Musk, Trump, Putin, etc.
     
  10. relaxxx

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    I mean conspirators are typically trying to hide what they are doing. Trump is whipping out his evil for the world to see as if he shouldn't be ashamed of his crooked dick moves.

     
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  11. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Trump is the most successful foreign intelligence operation not only in the history of the SVR/GRU, but in the history of espionage.
     
  12. relaxxx

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    Holy fucking shit show! Every day, hell every three hours it seems Trump has sunken to a new low with his evil dishonest drama. Him and his Nazi crony, Elon. We don't often see so many examples of how sick and evil James D-Bag Vance is, but he sure whipped it out today. "BE MORE thankful", Jesus fucking Christ. I thought he was literally going to pull out his dick and make Zelenskyy suck it on live TV. "Suck my dick or world war three, Whaaa haa haaa".

    FUCKING EVIL,
    SO FUCKING EVIL!
     
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  13. MeAgain

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    I am continually surprised that so many people are surprised when Trump pulls another shit show.
    Everyone knows who he is...those who support him support his agenda.

    It's not just Trump and Musk, it's the rotten core of the United States et al.
     
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  14. Piney

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    Absolutely no US troops on the ground in Ukraine !

    Zelinsky made the mistake of taking advice from Trumps opponents.
     
  15. tjr1964

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    Trump is destroying our Alliances and destroying America's domestic policies of Governance.
    Trump is official on the side of Putin's Russia, China and Russia is now going to be in the position of have to chose Trump's AmeriKKKa or Iran.
    Trump is a traitor.
     
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  16. tjr1964

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    The Military main mission is to uphold Democracy and to Defend the US Constitution from Enemies Foreign and Domestic.
    Military Rule is more benevolent than Trump Kleptocratic Rule.
    And the majority of Americans will eventually agree, when the moment arrives.
     
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  17. tjr1964

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    Just like when America won WW2, they restored Europe back from a Fascist State back into a Constitutional Democracy and if pushed, they will do the same here in America .
     
  18. tjr1964

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    Trump would have sent US troops to side with Putin's aggressive Invasion.
    Not only is Trump a National Security Risk, he has now became an Ally with Russia, China and North Korea..... it's official.
     
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  19. relaxxx

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    They blew up on Zenenskyy because they must have known he wasn't going to sign over Ukraine's mineral rights, by the time they got in front of cameras. Trump and Vance were little hot headed childish bullies that didn't get the candy they were after. I'm sure Trump also had a secret deal with Putin to double-cross Zelenskyy and transfer most of those minerals or profits back to Russia in one form or another. That is the only thing that makes sense. Why would Putin be fine with his puppet Trump and America getting those minerals, he obviously wants those resources for himself and Russia. Aside from selling out Ukrainians mineral future, this bad deal would also insult every other nation who's been assisting in their defense. There is only one nation that should be responsible for damages and rebuilding costs and that is Russia.
     
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  20. Echtwelniet

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    Imo Putin did not know what he agreed to, wen he shook hands with Trump on this.He basicly gave away the reason( gas/minerals/ect) he started this hole war.

    Wenn it comes to the Ukraine they are screwed either way :D

    Mzzls
     
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