Revolution !!!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Barefootsun, Feb 22, 2006.

  1. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    in a revolutionary situation, it would be popular. Most would support it. If the mood was right, a large proportion of the army would come over. I would prefer a non-violent revolution, but, its probably not possible.

    Che's guerrilla tactics
     
  2. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    There is absolutely no way that a revolution in the West would be popular. Most places vote conservative for Christ's sake.
     
  3. green_revolution

    green_revolution Member

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    All revolutions are violent since all revolutions are fought against the state.
     
  4. Chinese Troubadour

    Chinese Troubadour Member

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    A peaceful revolution to improve the world, but not a violent one, nor adhere to any political ideology.
     
  5. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    a peaceful revolution ? assume you are ready , that you are peaceful enough to live without government until it can be redefined . from this sort of faith , however uncertain , comes the necessary courage . then comes power and its wonderful sense of effortlessness - as though a god is doing it all , or rather a blooming ego becomes diffuse . we do it for survival , eh ?
     
  6. Chinese Troubadour

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    Mahatma Ghandi did a peaceful revolution that gave India independence; MLK did a peaceful revolution to gain equal rights for African-Americans, why cant others do the same thing?
     
  7. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    as the people say in the woods , we don't need no leader . every good revolution is like none before it .
     
  8. HikerHauk

    HikerHauk Banned

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    it's not the same now
    peaceful revolutionist will be starve to death:)
     
  9. Spiritforces

    Spiritforces Member

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    Chinese Troubadour:
    "nor adhere to any political ideology."
    I don't know what you mean with this.
    Politics is the handling of a speech by an individual, behind more than one person when this individual speaks about the social day to day organisation of the group formed by those persons.
    We all do politics all the time.
    Of course a revolution must have political aspects, you need people to speak in front of others and help organizing something. Without that, well just an enormous mass of people would form That all of them came there, at the same time, in the same place, with the sme state of mind and the same ways to achieve their common goals requires an organisation, a form of, which must be political.
    well, I am not totally anarchist u see...

    But I do think both of the words "political" and "ideology" can have many ways to be interpreted and used.
     
  10. aoacoder

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    If the USA is a democracy then you shouldn't need a revolution to oust your democratically elected government.

    - it's not

    Basically if enough people in the US were upset at the current regime then they can use their vote to cause a revolution.
    -you must be white christian and male not suffering any oppression


    you could not have a revolution with anything less than the complete sacrificre of your life....literally.

    - Amen. I got the balls, but i don't think most understand the scope, or maybe i haven't found those that understand the scope yet.

    Again Like i said, you say you want a revolution I say you don't have the stomach for it and not to mention the fact that the "heroes" or "revolutionist" rarely live to see the fruit of their labours.

    I'm down, i'm just saying people don't understand what is involved in giving up, it's not a weekend job, you won't be going back to school monday, you risk imprisonment, death, torture, incarceration without a trail (U.S.A the constitution is just a peice of paper) and worse. look at the miami five, che, abbie, or anybody who's tried, even if they succeded they surely get killed, jailed, incarcerated before the full fruit of their labours.
     
  11. aoacoder

    aoacoder Member

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    *chuckles*
    Revolution is already on it's way...
    We're constantly changing... evolving...
    It's obvious to see...
    The world IS uniting...
    Voices ARE being heard...
    Knowledge IS being spread...
    a few more decades

    i don't have the qoute by fidel but it's something to the effect of society will evolve naturally through time, but that is not revolution

    wait i got it

    "There are some that will say ideas must triumph through the masses before revolutionary action can occur, but this is not revolution, revolution is taking action to bring about the triumph of ideas in the masses"

    brr... it' something to that affect, 30 to 40 years isn't fast enoguht i don't want to be a grampa before i'm free
     
  12. rainbowedskylover

    rainbowedskylover Senior Member

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    but I will support it, AMEN
     
  13. aoacoder

    aoacoder Member

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    also as a sidenote what about all the cats locked up now waiting for the rest of us to go nuits already, david gilbert, mumia, many have given there lives already (free lives) and are sitting in a cell well the comfortable middle class picks there asses, just wait when there's no more lower class to exploit, they'll come for you too
     
  14. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    but it is either A or B and A or B work for the same people and class. It doesn't matter what they are liberals, conservatives, or whatever once they get up there they end up working for big business and corporations or else their lives will be hellish.
     
  15. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    "In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up." Martin Niemoeller
     
  16. Phrensied Rabbits

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    I hear that

    Grouve on, man
     
  17. aoacoder

    aoacoder Member

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    "In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up." Martin Niemoeller

    Exactly the idea this world needs to be embrace...
     
  18. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Who is that selfless today? I don't know any.
    We are here today because past people gave a damn about random strangers and generations they will never meet. Do we care about future generations? Should we? I believe we should, but most people will argue who cares all the people you know and care about will be gone anyways.

    It is like the capitalist, he does not give a shit about environmental destruction, rights or such nonsense as along he/she profits.
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It's people and personal rights we should all be the most interested in, and willing to lay down our lives for, not political or religious leanings. If you see a fellow being being abused it's your place to intercede. To wait and weigh the return of your action, to what benefits you is something that organized groups want you to do, because it puts what's really important behind the things that really matter.
     
  20. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    I watched V today and it got me thinking cops and soldiers will be lost and careless without higher ups giving orders and will just stand-down. So the smart thing to do is just take out thier superiors and they will be clueless and just drop thier guns.

    just theorizing....
     

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