Revelations of an Elite Family Insider...

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  1. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Actually trying to explain the cosmos through magical beliefs does not at all express a deeper understanding of myth and archetype but depicts a rather shallow appreciation of them.

    The fact is that elephants don't have any myths of which I am aware, but they do have bodies and do indeed share a pachydermal core. The sophistication of myth is its ability to transmit core information regardless the vagueness of space and time.
     
  2. Desos

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    so then, is it hardwired into our dna, or is it us connecting to a higher source? why in particular is it these things that repeat themselves? i mean, they have to have some significance. even if these things are hardwired into our dna then why on earth would that be the case? why would human imagination be so consistent, if not for a reason?
     
  3. mastercylinder

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    done the insider about to do hidden hand---nothing new alot of things that i learned on LSD mescaline shrooms and yes even salvia in there---then my religious readings--started because of those religious trips---i thought he was entertaining but not an elite or bloodline--with his vocabulary dude could start a cult--beware--lol and as an recent past girlfriend told me when i commented on our difference in age---"age is just a number" Peace to all us seekers and magical thinkers;)
     
  4. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Well, I don't know, and neither does anyone else this side of death. Anyone who claims to is not as wise or enlightened as they would want you to believe.

    I really gave up trying to understand all the mechanics and intricacies of this grand adventure we call existence, let alone try to sway someone else to my thoughts on it. Gives me a migraine.:(

    I was just thinking the other day about all the self proclaimed "gurus" around today and one thing they all don't exhibit that is an essential trademark of a spiritually enlightened individual; humility.

    In my estimation one who is truly enlightened or spiritual does not need to surround themselves with others to gain an affirmation of their personal beliefs. On the contrary, they would be humble enough to realize how little they actually know much less teach others. From what I can tell, you don't see that exhibited too often in these "gurus". I see a lot of lip service and showings of humility for the sake of their audience, but not the real deal.

    Reminds me of a lyric from The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, The Chamber of 32 Doors, I believe;
    "I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found, There's no need to sell if you're homeward bound."

    That sums up the way I look at it.
    (I guess I kinda got off on a tangent there didn't I)


    It could very well be hardwired into our DNA as you say, I personally believe that DNA does hold memory beyond just the memory of how all our parts fit together. That very well could be it. The thing is NOBODY knows the answers to some of these questions. We will at some point in existence I believe, but not at this stage.

    Anyway they say she comes on a pale horse but I'm sure I hear a train.

    Sorry, more Genesis leaking out:p
    Anyway didn't we already cover a lot of this in this thread?

    And Desos I don't see your name on the sign-up sheet yet, what are you waiting for?:toetap05:
     
  5. Mr.Writer

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    Middle path.

    Another common logical fallacy. "but why these things"; if it weren't these things, then it would be "those" things, and you would be asking me "but why those things". It's gotta be something, that's all we know. Don't get hung up about the specifics, they are arbitrary. That's what you're not understanding. You are assigning a deeper meaning to the situation a priori and then trying to explain the deeper meaning that you have added to the situation. Take yourself out of the picture, take your own yearnings for multidimensional arcade pinball machines on cloud zeta out of the picture, and just look at the myths. They just are. They are stories. Why do we tell them? Because we are human. Same answer/question as "Why do we have dreams". If you want, you can posit some deep paranormal explanation for dreaming, a "nocturnal cosmic spirit buffer overflow", but why do this? Why complicate things and try and squish this wiggly universe into your square little tale? Just look at the thing, and don't take that next cognitive step and try and capture it. Just look. Train yourself to just look, without concluding. Concluding is one of the best traits of our intellect, and also one of the worst, because it's exceedingly difficult to do properly, and most people tend to conclude when they should just be looking.

    This is like the fallacy of "But why am i me and not someone else?". Well, if you were someone else, then you would be that person asking "but why am i me". same with "but why these things". Look at the function at work here, not at the actual specific outcomes of the function, because those are just exhaust fumes. It is the engine which is key.
     
  6. neodude1212

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    but damn life would be so much easier if you said you were
     
  7. mastercylinder

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    done with HH cool read good writing---So HH is nothing more or less than the Devil himself--in the plural---if you check out Ouspensky --HH sounds like the Benevolent Devil--in "Talks with a Devil" had a slight influence on Aldous Huxley and was popular amoung some in the 60s--check it out---Peace
     
  8. Mr.Writer

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    i am an atheist.
     
  9. neodude1212

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    the implications of what you just did are on the level of my own actions
    hello, mr. writer, grEGG
    I see you
     
  10. Desos

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    but if your homeward bound, why not bring as many people as possible with you! :) that'd be plenty of reason to share.
     
  11. neodude1212

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    and where is home?
     
  12. inthydreams911

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    Like they say, home is where the heart is.
     
  13. neodude1212

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    where is ur heart brah
    is ur heart where my heart is?
     
  14. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Because if you've found "it" and your homeward bound so to speak, the need to sell it is no longer there.
    Most people "sell it" to bolster themselves rather than help guide others.
    Many are called but few are chosen kinda thing.
    It really has a lot more to do with being settled in yourself rather than having anything to do with another person.

    If you notice I share my viewpoints but really don't try to "sell" them or try to convince others that I am right or my belief system is the "truth". I used to ram my beliefs down other peoples throats whether they wanted it or not. But as I have grown and learned more I realize that I am the only one that is needed to be convinced or settled in my beliefs.
    You and I have butted heads a few times about these things. Often you have taken a defensive stance, while I have mostly just tried to stir you up to get you to consider other possibilities. I'm good with my beliefs and am not afraid to share them, but I certainly don't need to convince you or anyone else that I am right.
    Thats not my job or purpose.
    That is what I meant by the humility I mentioned earlier. I know I come off as an intolerant ass at times. But upon closer inspection you may find that for the most part when it comes to spiritual beliefs and systems of thought I just try to stir those that I feel haven't really settled in themselves yet what they believe. Often those individuals will tenaciously cling too and visciously protect those beliefs that they themselves aren't 100% certain of.
    "If I can get you to also agree and believe it, then it validates it a little more for myself"

    A truly enlightened person is beyond that type of self validation because they can see it for what it is and really have no need for validation from any other.

    If each persons path is a unique journey and "enlightenment" can be reached through various means, why try so hard to sell yours? Others will come to thiers eventually.
    The reason I told you that I have traveled some of the same roads that you are on now and in the past wasn't to try to invalidate those paths, it was to let you know I understood where you were coming from even if I don't completely agree with you.
    You at times seemed as if you would not accept another persons enlightenment or spirituality unless it conformed to the framework which you yourself embraced at that moment.

    True enlightenment and spirituality is bigger than any belief system. It's sort of like the blind men describing an elephant, all touching the same thing but coming away with different impressions and convinced that thiers is the only "true" one.

    True humility lies in not having to "sell it". It will sell itself to those who are open. They may not end up buying it from you, but they may make a purchase someday.

    So there's no need to sell if your homeward bound.:)
     
  15. thedope

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    I find that many seekers are motivated by their discomfort. They find themselves an article of faith that comforts them and they call upon it whenever they are uncomfortable. It soothes them in the moment. They did find what they were looking for. However, they were not looking for knowledge but comfort. Lovingly enlightened they regard themselves by way of a well practiced vernacular, but hold their feet to the fire by way of practically any stressful situation and they become vicious little snots. Defensiveness is a sure sign of ineptitude.





    Many are called but few are chosen kinda thing.
    It really has a lot more to do with being settled in yourself rather than having anything to do with another person.

    If you notice I share my viewpoints but really don't try to "sell" them or try to convince others that I am right or my belief system is the "truth". I used to ram my beliefs down other peoples throats whether they wanted it or not. But as I have grown and learned more I realize that I am the only one that is needed to be convinced or settled in my beliefs.
    You and I have butted heads a few times about these things. Often you have taken a defensive stance, while I have mostly just tried to stir you up to get you to consider other possibilities. I'm good with my beliefs and am not afraid to share them, but I certainly don't need to convince you or anyone else that I am right.
    Thats not my job or purpose.
    That is what I meant by the humility I mentioned earlier. I know I come off as an intolerant ass at times. But upon closer inspection you may find that for the most part when it comes to spiritual beliefs and systems of thought I just try to stir those that I feel haven't really settled in themselves yet what they believe. Often those individuals will tenaciously cling too and visciously protect those beliefs that they themselves aren't 100% certain of.
    "If I can get you to also agree and believe it, then it validates it a little more for myself"

    A truly enlightened person is beyond that type of self validation because they can see it for what it is and really have no need for validation from any other.

    If each persons path is a unique journey and "enlightenment" can be reached through various means, why try so hard to sell yours? Others will come to thiers eventually.
    The reason I told you that I have traveled some of the same roads that you are on now and in the past wasn't to try to invalidate those paths, it was to let you know I understood where you were coming from even if I don't completely agree with you.
    Is the next quote your "framework?

    Pride and humility are both members of the same vain club.
    The things that make me want to stand close to someone are:
    The display of trust, of confidence in all things around.
    Honesty which is measured by consistency
    Tolerance, gentleness, joy
    Defenselessness, generosity, patience
    Open mindedness.

    If your home you do need to practice living.
     
  16. Mr.Writer

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    :bigear: i hear you
     
  17. mastercylinder

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    so it made me realize the power of thought---something i forgot----so i positively thought about my shoulder----heal heal heal its getting better etc. and today i have 15-20% more range of motion than i did yesterday---bad dislocation--but its fucking really getting better fast----and ive been changing all my neg thoughts as soon as i catch them and turning them to positive--something i used to know well---u can def make shit happen just by thinking it---i used to know this but i havnt tripped in some years---i need some shrooms
     
  18. inthydreams911

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    Well wherever your heart is, doesn't matter where.
     
  19. spiralout23

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    O kay if you were interested in what this guy had to say, minus the elite family shit, please read this. It is an excerpt from Exegesis, Phillip K. Dick's personal journal. It hits on some of the points that this guy was talking about but this speaks to me much more.

    http://deoxy.org/plurifrm.htm

    And if you dont know about this site then you should definetely check it out. :)
     
  20. MovedOn

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    It is not ruling bloodlines. It is ruling energy lines. :D
     

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