Renaming Christmas

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  1. thedope

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    I'm not correct in what I say?
     
  2. themnax

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    this is the path you seem fond of leading others down, so it seems a bit interesting to see you saying it. or perhaps i should say were. i seem to remember you being the one to worship words and refuse to distinguish them from what they represent. perhaps this was some previous phase in your life you have moved beyond. if so, good for you.
     
  3. Irminsul

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    I know you watch over me
    Father of all the lands
    And all that we'll ever be
    You are the first and the last
    The watcher of all that lives
    The guarder of all that dies
    The one eyed God way up high
    Who rules thy world and the skies

    Northern winds take this prayer up high
    To the halls of glory in the sky
    So that they may greet me open wide
    When my time has come to die..
     
  4. thedope

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    I don't know what this means. What makes you think that you know what I am fond of? Why is it a bit interesting? Saying what? you remember or you seem to remember? When did I ever profess any kind of worship? I do not practice worship and I don't believe it is helpful. What words did i refuse to distinguish them from what they represent and what does that even mean? If you are referring to etymological expositions that was promulgated for a different reason and what I am doing now Is pointing out the unrecognized or not examined assumptions frequently present in the way we speak. Thank you for the concern for my development. I don't know that I can rightly anticipate what ever phases you, you being an old dog so to speak.
     
  5. thedope

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    Merry Fred
     
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  6. SouthPaw

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    Actually, you can be arrested in Canada and most European countries for expressing free speech.

    In Canada you can be arrested for verbally expressing your dislike of another race or religion.

    Some guy in England just got arrested for tweeting a harmless joke (a tasteless joke, but a harmless one).

    It's illegal to display a swastika in Germany. Even in museums they have to cover them up on photos from WWII. It's also illegal to possess a copy of Mein Kampf.

    An Austrian historian was sentenced to three years in prison for holocaust denial.

    A British politician was arrested for quoting a Winston Churchill speech about Islam.

    Italian scientists have been jailed for "not" predicting earthquakes (a little reversal there).

    French reporters have been arrested and prosecuted for exposing extramarital affairs of their Prime Minister.

    Greek reporters have been arrested and prosecuted for exposing fraud and tax evasion.

    I lived in Europe for two years. Freedom of speech isn't a right. Censorship is the norm.
     
  7. SouthPaw

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    As for the OP.....I suggest we just keep saying, "Merry Christmas".

    I also say, "Happy Hanukkah" to my Jewish friends. Oh noes! I'm not offended....
     
  8. SnakeOilWilly

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    Not that I condone violence but if I said merry Christmas to someone and they were ungrateful I very well might have to smack 'em upside the head with a 2x4!
     
  9. thedope

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    I can appreciate this as humor. it is that you condone violence if your thought is to hit up side the head. it would be a better tact to inform them of what you know about the situation.
    A knowing statement cannot be undone it can only be listened to or not. If you feel that strongly you should explain yourself instead. Do you say merry christmas for the sake of gratitude or do you say it because that is what you want them to have.
     
  10. SnakeOilWilly

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    I love how this thread has turned into a U.N. conspiracy thread.

    Back on topic, should we rename Christmas? No. I'm Jewish but half of my family is Christian (well sort of - most of 'em don't go to church) and I celebrate Christmas. It's pretty much a secular holiday now-a-days but what are we gonna do? Enact a U.N. referendum stating an official name change of Christmas? Get the pope involved? Change.org? No. That's just ridiculous.

    Any way sorry for that rant but it seems like the P.C. police are up in everyone's grill these days.
     
  11. SnakeOilWilly

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    I was just joking but really when I say merry Christmas to someone I just say it to be nice. I don't like it when people get upset over people being nice to them.
     
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  12. thedope

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    If you say it just to seem nice you could get any reaction because it is not clear what you intend. That is why people get upset. It is because they misinterpret your garble intention. If it is in you to say only as a political courtesy then you come up against someone else's politics. Best to keep it to yourself if you don;t mean it. Obviously we don;t get consistent brownie points in that manner but you will only grow in reputed integrity if you speak in an upright manner. We naturally like those who sincerely like us
     
  13. SnakeOilWilly

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    I get your point but formalities exist for a reason. When greeting a person around Christmas should I just say "happy winter"? If someone is Jewish and I know they are I'll say happy Hanukkah to 'em if it's Hanukkah. If I know someone's anti-Christmas or whatever I won't wish them a happy Christmas but I don't know any non-jew who doesn't at least hang out with people 'round Christmas. (although those few jews I mentioned live in Israel so no one around them celebrates Christmas)

    When I say merry Christmas I mean well and I don't like it when people feel me meaning well is offensive.
     
  14. Moonglow181

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    Happy Holidays and Happy New year is what I say......in real life......
     
  15. Moonglow181

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    Nice to see the days opening up a little bit already...it is not as dark at 4 or 5 pm anymore.
     
  16. Moonglow181

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    From now on I am going to say happy lightening up!
     
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  17. SnakeOilWilly

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    In California it still gets dark at 5-5:30

    So much for sunny.
     
  18. humanbeaing

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    I do not celebrate Christmas and people around me know i dont but still wish me merry Christmas anyway. I say thank you back. I never felt offended. I just figure it like they are wishing me a good day.
     
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    They exist to keep you restrained and because no one is saying what is really on their minds there is rampant suspicion because the truth isn't being spoken. Such polity is programmed behavior that doesn't allow us to recognize each other because everyone tries to act the same but everyone isn't comfortable with the exact sameness and this is where discomfort erupts into displayed aggression.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAGxjOr3vYA
     

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