Religion is for cowards and pedophiles of childrens minds

Some would say that religion is one of the few things holding us back from destroying each other.

 

You made this thread because you're looking for likeminded persons, but this is exactly why I think a lot of people won't agree with you. Why acuse religious people as a whole? Save that for individual cases if you must, when it's righteous, rather then judging all, which if you are as smart as you think you are should be aware of how stupid that is. It makes you look not very different than those religious folk you're speaking of.

 

I take back my statement that the average religious person is more likely to commit violence than most other people, however I still believe that religious fanaticism, death, and bigotry go hand in hand.

So yeah, When I have said that the average religious person was more prone to violence than a non religious person I was wrong.

:Angel_anim:

 

To you I'm sure god does exist, I've never met the guy maybe you can give me his phone number and I can give him a ring then we can close this thread?

Of course there is the possibility that your just delusional.

 

Maybe you would say that, but then again you've never shot a suicide bomber before or had friends killed by religious fanatics.

I'm sure the Sunday school you may or may not teach at is extremely non violent doesn't mean all religions are just as passive.

 

Are they now? Why aren't they in this thread, where they belong?

I highly doubt that the statistics I'm asking for have ever been gathered. But then, I'm not the one making extraordinary claims.

 

Have you ever shot a suicide bomber? Have your friends been killed by religious fanatics? And is that a sound basis for hating religion, or just an excuse to make an illogical, irrational, emotional justification of your own prejudices?

I've seen some interesting stats recently that have indicated the people tend to have a totally disproportionate sense of crime rates, teenage pregnancy rates, in fact just about anything negative and media-sexy. People just don't seem to be able to factor in the reality that extremes are more noticeable than normal/average things when they assess a situation. Add the media, and you have the average guess at the UK teen pregnancy rate being 40% when the actual average is less than 1%.

I feel this effect is relevant in light of these comments. Maybe you could show us a study that has looked at the adult lives of 10,000+ Sunday school kids and shown that they are significantly more likely to commit felonies. It would be a lot more persuasive than your anecdotal emotive statements about how obvious it is that there are lots of suicide bombers all over the place.

 

Actually, whether God exists to me or not doesn’t matter, for the purposes of this thread.

You are the one stating as fact that God does not exist and then making the claim that those who believe that God exists are cowards and pedophiles of children’s minds, based on that statement. That means you need to prove God doesn’t exist or else everything you’ve said falls apart like a house of cards in a strong wind.

Likewise, you may be the one that is delusional.

 

The key word being fanatic, the majority of religious people, as has already been pointed out to you, are not fanatics and do not advocate murder and suicide bombings.

In fact the majority of religious people are held in check from doing such things by the very thing you are trying to get rid of, their religious beliefs.

That is true and that is why I believe that there is only one true religion.

I believe that one of the ways you can test a religion or a philosophy is to ask; what if everybody believed as you do, what kind of a world would it be?

If everybody believed as I do there would no longer be war, murder, stealing, robbery, rape, child abuse and the list goes on.

Can you say the same for your philosophy?

 

must i teach you basic math as well as history.

 

Basic maths:

Mouth - trousers = you + Rudenoodle.


There is nothing even slightly intelligent about devoting post after post to criticising (badly) a person's knowledge base while making absolutely no attempt to improve it. If you have nothing to contribute, kindly butt out.

 

Which religion is the true religion?

 

The one set up by the True God but then you don't believe God exists, so why do you ask?

 

Is it one of the major religions in the world today?

Do you worship that god?

 

I'm saying that at least one main religion on Earth are eagerly waiting a rapture to end the world and leave the unclean here to die.

To go back to the original question of religious people killing in the name of god.

What would you say to the person who would see a vision and interpret as a sigh of god to murder someone?

A hay wired brain?

A actual god?

what of the coincidences?

The condition of Sir Ahmed Salman Rushdie comes to mind.

Where is the logic you see in religion, I am genuinely curious and you seem like a semi smart guy.

 

Dietrich Bonhoeffer comes to mind
http://www.amazon.com/Dietrich-Bonhoeffer-Called-Elizabeth-Raum/dp/0826413803

 

The same can be said for almost any philosophy. If everyone in the entire world held the same beliefs that practically any religion holds, there would no longer be war, murder, and all the other things you listed, if not simply because they ALL held the same beliefs.

Not just Christianity.

 

What if everyone followed the philosophy of the Nazi's? Also, mere belief isn't enough it also takes action. One philosophy can take us where we should go better than another.

 

Depends on what you mean by major, over 6 million worshipers. Is that major?

Yes.

 

Not really.

Take war and "Christianity" in World Wars I and II, there were "Christians" of most denominations on both sides killing each other, their religions didn't keep them from killing their "brothers" did it.