Reiki

There's various levels one can take this to. A friend of mine who began doing spirtual healing went on to study hypnotherapy and a couple of other things and now earns a living as a healer. That is fine.

Probably the best thing is to take it step by step, and you'll gain in knowledge and in confidence.
Good luck with the reiki attunement.

 

here's a little love for you, zen.

It's been a little intense on the cosmic waves for everybody lately I think so you're definitely not alone. You can do it! whatever it is...

 

LOL Yeah jrnyman, some folks who don't get to chat on forums like this one are going through more hell than either of us can even imagine. I dunno, I only know what it's like for me. Thank you for the love, friends.

 

I've never charged for healings before. But one thing I've noticed that's interesting is that many people really don't want to be healed. When a healing is offered they shy away, even if it's free. It's almost mind boggling how that is, but I've seen it too many times. There's one method I use where the healing happens in moments... and that's very shocking for some people. They can't believe their ailment (which can be a big one) can be gone just like that. Often the suffering had become incorporated into their ego and identity structure and they find they don't know who they are without it.

But yeah I think especially here in the Western world with such a strong focus on capitalism, many people really don't value something that's freely offered. A friend of mine who's a healer found that it wasn't until she started charging for her services that clients began to arrive. I have never been entirely immersed in the Western culture, having been born outside it, so in some ways I guess capitalism and money-charging isn't programmed into my DNA... lol... so I really don't care if I get paid or not. I like to feel for it, on a case by case basis, charge if it feels right, or not. I don't have a set judgment about it one way or another. Ultimately it doesn't matter, it only matters if it's helpful in that particular situation.

 

that's pretty much the way it's gone with me too. The most profound healings usually happen in a matter of moments. Although I tend to hold onto my ailments longer before I let them go... not always but I figure I have the damn thing for a reason I might as well learn from it. But then I have a hard time letting go of things sometimes.

I've noticed that kids and animals heal nearly instantly. Like five minutes often tops and then they're done and jump up and go about their business. It's really fun to watch.

And yeah zen... it's been crazy lately. One of the reasons I've been so quiet here on the boards is that I've been so deep dealing with everything else. It's a very intense time... good but takes a lot out of you. We're getting there though. In this place good things en masse usually take time.

 

Not sure exactly what you're dealing with, but I know about intense times all too well. Yet I feel peace about your situation. Sending you and naked love anyway - it never hurts, does it? LOL

 

Wow, thata remiands me, i ahd a teacher in3rd grade who knew how to do that, and believe me it worked because she tried it on me. I wasn't asure what it was but it relieved my pain, so I do sure believe it.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-field
read that, energy healing is partially evidenced...

I don't know how much I'd hold steady on 'reiki healing' specifically, but in general 'energy healing' is something very real. I've been getting the idea in my head more and more that it would be a pretty sweet occupation to be some sort of energetic healing practitioner. Cause I've always had a pretty good grip on it myself intuitively. I don't really get sick or have aches, pains or headaches. It's a rare occurance, and if I do I typically get myself to recover very quickly. And I have very precise control over my mood and feelings throughout my whole body. I've looked on google for schools of some sort to get some real training in it, but they all seem kinda flaky and not like it'd get you into an occupation. I'd imagine it's the sort of job that you just fall into...

 

Since you mention 'placebo'. Why don't you try these exercise.

1. Get some Table-salt. (not sea salt).
2. Get ready 2 glasses. Mix the 1 table spoon of table salt with 1 1/2 cups of water in one of the glasses..
3. Divide them into the 2 glasses. (Now both glasses of salt water should taste the same saltiness.
4. Put one glass away for control.
5. Take the other glass, cup it in your hands for 25 minutes.
6. Now taste the cup of salt water you just held in your hands and taste the other glass that was put away (or vice-versa)

Tell me your results. (If there is a difference - is it placebo ? Or YOU might have just performed a very basic skills of channeling.)

Bring this test to a Reiki Practitioner.
Please offer him or her some money as a token of mutual respect for his/her time. Get him or her to do this exercise together and see what happen.

(FYI : I am at Level 3+ Mastery)

Yours sincerely,
David G (lexlooter71)

 

i think im going to have to agree with this sergio guy. i think that reiki is part placebo and partly relaxation therapy. i think i could have the same effect as a reiki "master" with no training what so ever. if there is someone in pain i would say come into my "office" sit down here while i light some candles and incense, put on some relaxing indian music, then we will sit down and ill do some hocus pocus on you and maybe meditate with you a little while. of course the person is going to feel more relaxed, and their brain will release some feel-good chemicals and they will claim that they feel better. but i dont think it has anything to do with channeling or controlling energy in any way.

so my conclusion is that reiki is half placebo, and half relaxation therapy.

i honestly think we should test this somehow. if you are a reiki master, do you think you could manipulate energy? if you can then we should be able to put you in a lab, have you summon this energy and then try to detect some kind of energy. and how do you make that energy heal? how do you know that this energy isnt actually making the patient worse?

one time i had an elbo injury from skateboarding. i worked in a hospital so i went to the xray dept. and had them xray my elbo. one of the employees who is a karate master claimed he knew how to do reiki. he did it on me and i didnt feel anything.

another experience i had was when i was doing IT consulting, i was called into a energy healing medical center type office. after hooking up their servers i had a chat with the lady who owned the place and she was making SOOOOOOO much money in her energy healing center. people with all sort of ailments walked in and walked out with the same ailments, only difference is that they felt better which would make sense if they were receiving relaxation therapy. ive never seen people actually be "healed" from reiki. i think it would be cool if someone somewhere would document a broken leg and have it instantly healed by a reiki master.


if you dont agree that reiki = relaxation therapy and some placebo, then please explain how reiki achieves something different then a combination of relaxation therapy and placebo effect.

 

Why would you expect this from any kind of healing? Medical science can't even approach that speed of healing for a broken bone, why should reiki? What if after having a bone set and put in a cast reiki was used and it healed in half the normal time, does that still mean it's "bullshit"? What if healing took normal time but there was less or no pain... Still bullshit?

 

well i dont expect it. but if it was magic like reiki was real, i would expect magical results.

if reiki was used and it healed in half the time, i would be impressed. im really not that stubborn, if theres reasonable evidence, i would be reasonably convinced.

now the thing about pain, thats where reiki is used most, and thats the area where people argue most about reiki. this makes perfect sense because pain is so subjective, its the easiest way to fool people. if you think about it, when it comes to pain the only evidence that you can get is people saying "oh well it worked on me, or it worked on my aunt, or a friend of a friend...."


like i said, it would be very hard for someone to distinguish reiki powers, from placebo and relaxation therapy. i challenge people to distinguish the two in some meaningful way.

 

let us consider it is not a power . would you inquire about it differently ?

 

if someone said they had a "skill" that they could harness energy and heal with it, I would still be skeptical. its the actual claim that i have a problem accepting.

 

i would consider any "channeling of energy" questionable.
i just dont believe in anything that doesnt make sense. "reminding the body to heal itself" makes no sense to me.

im glad you dont charge for your work.

david, its obvious you went to some kind of reiki school because in highschool you would've learned that this test is not scientific.
good luck on your level 4 master reiki exam buddy.

 

nope disagree with that too! given enough time, we can know everything.

 

FYI, vsergio, everyone has stopped paying attention. you can go surf porn now.

 

if you look at the dates, it appears he has stopped paying attention well before you.

i know this is an old thread but im just so curious as to what the guy with the salt water expected the results of the test to be.
maybe some reiki practicioners can try it out, and if reiki powers have an affect on salt water, maybe they have an affect on other materials. my printer just broke, it would be awsome if i could channel some energy to fix it!