Real or Not?

Discussion in 'Global Warming' started by dead_head_0000, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Hmmmm, should I believe a panel of hundreds of the world's most eminent climate scientists or should I believe a 14 year old boy on an internet forum:confused:[​IMG]

    Tricky one, it's a tough call it really is:confused:
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  2. tinyd4nc3r

    tinyd4nc3r Member

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    dead head,
    can you explain why Antartica's ice sheets are breaking off?? don't you see a correalation in the melting of our ice worlds. and besides that I based my opinion on the obvious signs of global warming long before i even heard about an inconvinent truth.
     
  3. brainstew

    brainstew Member

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    Why are people hinting so often to the age of dead head? Anyway, real of not doesn't anyone think we should take measures to improve our air quality for ourselves and future generations and not change our ways ONLY if it is a serious threat because if or when (if this hasn't already happened) global warming comes it on't be too late/
     
  4. dead_head_0000

    dead_head_0000 Member

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    Yes we should improve the Earth. ................. (Maybe everyone on the forums think all 14 year olds are retarded kids.)

    Also many Scientests disagree with Global Warming!
     
  5. dead_head_0000

    dead_head_0000 Member

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    1. There is fuking global warming! It's not man made is all I'm saying.

    2. We have been comeing out of an Ice age for the last couple thousand years. Of corse the world is going to warm up and ice sheets are going to break off.

    People LISTEN TO ME....i'm not saying Earth isn't warming, I'm saying it's not man made!!
     
  6. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    No. No, they don't. There is an established scientific body of evidence which is accepted by an overwhelming majority of climate scientists. Unless by "many" you mean "a small minority".

    I raise my hands about the 14 year old boy remark - it was below the belt to suggest that someone's age has any bearing on their opinions, but to be honest it was too good a joke to miss. Those who deny anthropogenic climate change in the face of an overwhelming body of evidence are hard enough to take seriously as it is, and the irony of a school child thinking he knows better than hundreds of the world's top experts in their fields because he's read something on the internet...
     
  7. dead_head_0000

    dead_head_0000 Member

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    For the last time, I'm not denying climate change, I'm denying it's man made!
     
  8. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    "anthropogenic" means man made:)
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Perhaps you are investing in the new science that believes in global warming. Don't ask the rest of us to invest in it, with out more than a film made by a politician. You want to sell light bulbs make them better than the old ones.
     
  10. dead_head_0000

    dead_head_0000 Member

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    LMFAO, I guess i missed that :p
     
  11. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    I invest in a rigorous and robust peer-reviewed scientific method based on observable empirical evidence and principles of logic...
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    You are linking to the wiki?
     
  13. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    well spotted?
     
  14. tinyd4nc3r

    tinyd4nc3r Member

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    okay dead head i think you need to reveiw the facts little man. and the facts are that human beings are emmiting a dangorous amount of fossil fuels in the air that thicken our atmosphese and therefore not enough of the sun rays are absorbed back into space so the heat is trapped in our atmosphere and the world heats up, get it??......and you are right about the world coming out of an ice age but the amount of pollutiuon in the air is definety speeding up the process at an unhealthy rate and that gives no time to for life to evolve into the climate changes and the results will be irresposible on humans part.so basically 500 trillion people will have to suffer the consequences in the coming decades if something is not done and the problem is not reduced.
     
  15. dude07

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    ok, im going to jump into this argument, i did research on this topic, and here's some facts. Between 1900 to 2000 the average temperature went up 1 degree worldwide. the hottest year i think was in the 1960's, which was during the global cooldown. Usually when the average tempertaure of earth increases, so do the other planets and vice versa, so the sun's temperature is a factor. theres some facts, the ice caps aren't melting, do you guys honelsty believe in what Al Gore says??? the average temperature has barely increased in a 100 years, there is no facts that conclude to humans speeding up the process of global warming(but there many opinions out there, but it doesnt make it fact) Is global warming a problem now, in my opinion it isn't, the facts and statistics show it isn't, but thousands years from now, it may be problem, there is no way from stopping the earth from warming or cooling, its nature, which is uncontrolable
     
  16. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    Big money has created the myth that there is even a debate that there is global warming caused by humans

    Its exactly the same thing that tobacco companys did in the 50s and 60s and in fact many of the so called experts on the sceptic side were the actual same people who told you that smoking was safe .

    some of the oil companys are changing their tune now but they have had years to make money by making you think warming isnt happening

    its just the same as back in the 50s and 60s with smoking, the germans had proof that smoking caused cancer back in the 1930s but tobacco companys covered it up .

    And big business has done it again but this time they havent just killed millions of people selling them a product they knew would kill them they have endangered our planet

    watch this
    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=522784499045867811&q=global+warming+denial
     
  17. dude07

    dude07 Member

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    Do you have any facts to back that statement up, that the argument against global warming is a conspricacy to make money???? If using that thought process couldnt you argue that Al Gore is using the threat of Global Warming to make money, since he made a movie about it(which had no scientific evidence at all, his graphs had no numbers, his so called scientists are actually friends with no scientific background, and i think its quite funny how he takes NO questions from anyone about global warming issue) How reliable is that video you posted????? its a biased clip, and so i question the reliablity of the clip's information,
     
  18. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    The claim was not that arguments against global warming are a conspiracy to make money, but that interested corporations have funded organisations which aim to raise concerns and doubts about scientific findings which are exceptionally widely accepted among the community of climate scientists. There is plenty of evidence for this. Vocal criticisms, often with little scientific validity, of well-established findings has the effect of creating the impression that there is significant scientific debate about the existence and basic mechanisms of anthropogenic climate change, which there isn't.
    http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/exxonmobil-smoke-mirrors-hot.html
    http://web.archive.org/web/20011220012221/http://www.exxonmobil.com/contributions/public_info.html
     
  19. dude07

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    On the UCS webpage they keep saying the temperature is rising, but they never say how much. also they say 2005 was the hottest year ever in the worlds history, but they never give a exact average tempature. Sounds like they are making up abunch of information, wheres the numbers at???? weres there statistics????
     
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