Rapex

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by Aristartle, Mar 12, 2006.

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  1. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Just so Dick Cheney isn't in or anywhere near that bunker, Otter. :D
     
  2. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Would you rather die? If it were me, and you were trying to rape me, I'd rather live.

     
  3. fritz

    fritz Heathen

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    .......*sigh* [​IMG] ...No comment.
     
  4. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    ;) *smooch*
     
  5. andcrs2

    andcrs2 Senior Member

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    What's the big deal?

    These things are prolly cheaper than Saturday Night Specials.
    It won't be long before there's a Movement to ban'em if they sell well.

    Besides there aren't any crazy broads out There.



    Can't yall find anything more important to squabble about...

    ...like should soccer moms be allowed to drive vehicles?

     
  6. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    This device can cripple and identify a rapist at the same time. There is no other device like it.

    I'm sure most men would feel a bit more comfortable wearing one of these devices in prison, just as much as a woman would feel a bit more comfortable wearing one of these devices while travelling in South Africa.
     
  7. Nisha

    Nisha Forlorn.

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    i could see myself wearing it if i had to travel by myself or something like working on a late night shift. if someone has such intentions and believes they have the right to just violate my body, i wouldn't mind having something to snatch back at them. what gives them the right to do it in the first place? i would want to teach them a lesson.

    then again, how will i be able to take it out without hurting my own fingers and such? how expensive will it be.. bla bla bla.

    whatever folks. i'm all for giving someone a taste of themselves if they're going to try and hurt me.
     
  8. Musikero

    Musikero Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I've seen arguments both for and against Rapex. I will repeat my view: Rapex is a weapon. Any weapon can either be used responsibly or irresponsibly. The question therefore, is: if Rapex were to be made available to women (and perhaps men), how do we ensure that it is used responsibly?

    Additional thoughts:

    Unfortunately, there is no absolute guarantee that it will be used in a responsible manner. Neither is there any absolute guarantee that it will be an effective deterrent - certainly it's useless against gang rape, and there's no telling what a pissed-off rapist is capable of doing.

    On the other hand, if a woman must fight, then she has to fight with all the weapons she has in her arsenal. Rapex may or may not disable an individual rapist, but it may hurt him enough to create an opening for a woman to push him off her. This will not be enough, however. She has to follow up her counterattack with another attack. Perhaps by this time her hands and/or legs are free, and the rapist is holding his groin leaving his upper body exposed. A quick strike to the throat might finish the job. At the very least, he's even less likely to fight since he won't be able to breathe. (this scenario has just one rapist - as I've said, Rapex is useless against gang rape)
     
  9. Mary Poppins

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    I totally disagree with that statement, Green.

    About this device, I feel that it's creation was based on vindictiveness more than protection and would also feel that by one wearing it one would almost expect to be raped.

    I give it a thumbs down, and I am from South Africa.
     
  10. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    Aren't you a white South African though? I'm pretty sure you aren't as high risk as a black woman living in the hideous slums that surround those pretty, little, all-white, areas. Though, I have heard that Afrikkaner men have a nasty reputation for raping female tourists. I actually heard that from a couple of British men. It may or may not be true. You tell me.

    This device was intended for the women who live in those slums where all kinds of crime happen and in rural South Africa where the AIDS rate is incredibly high and men are raping women and young girls because they are being told that sex with a virgin will cure AIDS.

    If you don't want to utilize such a device..don't. But do not begrudge a woman who's in genuine fear of her person from having the option. I'm betting you don't wake up each morning with one of the thoughts in the back of your mind being.."Gee I hope I don't get raped today" like millions of poor, black, African, women do each day. Your life isn't the same as theirs. My life isn't the same as theirs. I would never use this contraption but I would never tell a woman, who lives in a place with a high rape rate, that she shouldn't or couldn't use one.
     
  11. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    I hope you don't mean literally.
     
  12. GermanLoveMachine

    GermanLoveMachine Member

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    Make him a sexual cripple - thats what its all about, right ? THATS why I call this shit an instrument of revenge !

    And I also think its telling in this context, how much of so called "self defense" intsructors (NOT talking about all, just the feminist ones !) seem to be obsessed with the male genitals as a target. Just a few days ago their was on german TV a report about such a class. In one scene they showed the (female) instructor deliver a kick to some kind of bag-puppet and she delivered the kick FULL FORCE to where the genitals would be.

    Comment from her afterwards: "This one would never touch a woman again" (note that she did not say "rape again", but that she referred to destroying his sex life !!!) and they showed some braindead teenagers faces smiling happily.

    So this had nothing to do with the concept of defending herself and attack the rapist in such a way to gain time for escape. It was about DESTROYING HIS MANHOOD, and I guess it is THIS mentality that also is behind the idea of the so called "Rapex" !!!
     
  13. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    growing up with two "boisterous" older brothers, it was incredibly important for me to know, as the last resort, the one thing that would settle them down. when coming up against a truly superior physical force, some things go beyond revenge into sheer terror and survival instinct.
     
  14. Musikero

    Musikero Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    This rather off-topic but anyway: in fairness to these self-defense classes, the male groin is targeted because it is one of the most sensitive parts of the male anatomy. Other targets include the eyes, throat, solar plexus, etc. But the groin can be particularly tricky to defend against unless the guy knows about proper distance and angling. The throat and eyes are more easily defensible because it is instinctive to cover the head with the arms in a fight. The solar plexus has some protection with the abdominal muscles plus the arms. The groin however, can be very vulnerable to a blow in close quarters. However, these instructors you mentioned shouldn't have just focused on the groin - they should have included all targets including the ones I haven't mentioned. After all, I think a rapist is most likely going to guard his groin against such counterattacks.

    As for your first sentence, well I already posted my thoughts on this before, nevertheless, to reiterate: Any weapon can be used for revenge or defense since all weapons are extensions of the Real Weapons (people). So it all boils down to the kind of people who intend to use weapons - whether it's Rapex, guns, knives, bare hands, etc. Look, I can't really say whether I'm for or against because like it or not, so long as there is no true peace in this world, there will always be weapons and people making them. The most I can say for Rapex in particular is, it is only effective as a weapon in certain situations and it can easily lend itself to misuse just as with any other weapon.
     
  15. GermanLoveMachine

    GermanLoveMachine Member

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    Lady Im not trying to insult you, Im just saying what I think: If by "the one thing" you mean what I think yo mean, it was not only incredible cruel to do such a thing TO YOUR OWN BROTHERS, but also incredible STUPID: There was at least the possibility to wipe out YOUR OWN GENES by such an action !

    (I take it for granted that your brothers did neither try to rape you nor to put your life in danger....)
     
  16. lakshen

    lakshen Forn Siưr

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    the groin isn't that hard to defend, you just bend your leg when someone kicks and block with your shinbone...

    A punch to the throat however will easily turn a rapee in to a killer...
     
  17. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    well, they were holding a pillow over my face to see what would happen, i panicked. it only took once. didn't harm their reproduction, either. but they fucking deserved it and i never looked back. boys are fucking stupid and don't understand how badly they're terrorizing or hurting someone else. hell yeah, i go for the nuts. someone attacks me i don't fucking care if they ever reproduce at all, clearly they're damaged anyway.
     
  18. GermanLoveMachine

    GermanLoveMachine Member

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    Great. Obviously the only one thing that you need to be completely equipped for fighting is a penis trap inside your pussy, just in case you dont get the "nuts" of someone you have a problem with....

    This is quite a fine example for what I have been writing about some pages ago, and that supposedly only exists "1 time in a 100000" (dont remember who wrote this but it was in this thread).

    (mynameiskc: Please dont take this as a personal insult, it wasnt meant this way. Im sure there are millions of women out there who think the same way you do, but dont say so publicly, so in some way I must say "thank you" to you for speaking your mind so frankly.)
     
  19. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    well, should anyone not respect my sexuality and my personal physical well being, i have no cause whatsoever to respect theirs. i will not change my stance on this. i'm very short, pretty, and sick of being bullied, groped and disrespected. i find myself completely lacking in sympathy for men who push a girl over the edge with their threats and superior physical strength. if i'm threatened, i'm going for the one thing garaunteed to end it, because i'm not stupid and i value my safety far more than i value the jewels of an agressor. as i stated in the early pages of this thread, however, i do worry over the vindictive bitches who would use it for revenge against a cheating boyfriend or some such bullshit. as such, i don't really condone this particular product for the most part.
     
  20. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I would like to think that I have every right to defend myself in whichever way that I so choose when someone is attacking me.
     
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