Rape a sleeping person

Discussion in 'Free Love' started by BFTr1ck, Nov 10, 2006.

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  1. denimstar

    denimstar edge of darkness

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    Any person with a conscience knows the difference between right and wrong. Taking advantage of a person who is sleeping/drugged/incapacitated in anyway is wrong.
     
  2. Sininabin

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    your in the wrong mind set, i don't mean it in a bad way per-say, but you're missing the a point let me expand

    (i'm going in assuming that you're not just pulling this out of your ass, becasue they're no point replying to any of this if you think the person is lying)

    you will learn that pleasure obtain from another person, cannot be taken.

    That true satisfing euphoria is from the mutal attraction. The feeling of not being either a thief or a thug (god only knows how many times i felt like that)

    Jacking off, and fucking a person aren't too much differnt if the person isn't responding. Yet the later seems to have negative effects. Though this a tagnet to your question. before i give answer to your question, one day hopefully you'll experiance someone wanting a experiance wiht you, and when someone loves you, or at the very least wants you, and you want them back. Then you relize the simple seperation between the human need to fuck, and the human need to be intimate

    to your question---

    their is never a right or wrong to anything. If you feel no guilt in the action, and the person has no truama metally or physically other then to others, it has no real tangiablity, i could imagine the same scene and have the same things happen and it would be the same if you're just wondering hypothetically if you could state an act which you know is wrong (or else why would you posting it here, and the word choice shows that you have an understanding that their something wrong) that you would get other to be unable to condrict you, then the question you asked is actully rather funny Becasue it much like if a tree falls in the woods does it make a sound, if you enjoy the "rape" of the person, or feel any emotion towards the act then ultimately it has hurt you. The human whe sleeping is unknowingly concuss and thus unless you erased her memory would unwittyingly know something happen. But assuming that she knows nothing, and you felt nothing, and truely remeber nothing then it is like it never happen.
     
  3. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    To the OP, how would you like it if you were anal raped while you were sleeping, same scenerio though, you'd wake up and never knew it happened, does that make it right?
     
  4. Zanarkand

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    What is wrong with You?
    I was at a friends house at a party, and this girl passed out drunk. So we took her to a bedroom so she could sleep and not be disturbed, checking up on her every now and then and making sure she was ok. Well, when I went to check on her the final time, there was some guy in there trying to take her panties off. I said "What the fuck are you doing!!". She woke up, and panicked, my friend came up to the room, we grabbed the guy, took him outside, and beat the shit out of him. Then we kicked him while he was down.

    I'm guessing that guy was thinking the same way you were thinking. Only there were negative consequences, and he suffered them. I know is nose was broken, and we might have fractured a rib or two, but no one knows because after word got out of what he tried to do, no one ever saw him again.
     
  5. unknown2012

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    omg is the guy for real O_O dude no matter how you word your question it's still fucked up! get a freaking brain dude.
     
  6. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    wheres the wrong?
    arent any consequenses?
    ok, 1st off, the subconceise is aware of whats goin on even in coma
    u may not conceisly remember it, but that only means you have deeper emotional scars you cant understand cause you cant identify the source (altho most would feel the pain and realize something happened)
    another consequence..you become a rapist and feel like its ok to do
    and it reduces every sleeping woman to safe rape status..believing its not wrong has harmful effects on all of society


    whats your point?
    yes rape is wrong...but if you get your load off then that makes it all ok?


    its rape...that makes it wrong
    its wrong to use people
    its wrong to not care
    its wrong to think ya should be aloud to do it cause your mightly load is more important then every womans right to sleep in peace without some asshole raping her


    untill ya sat down and realized your ass had been pounded loke a jackhammer..and all in a flash ya realize what happened

    or never even asked it

    it just is
    thats all the reason ya need
    wrong is wrong


    all rape is rape
    tryin to say 1 kinds ok is crazy..its still rape


    i'll give you just 1
    drink till you pass out in a park..wake up with a dick in your ass
    theres your reason..if you dont want it to ever happen to you, why would it be right for you to do it to anyone else
     
  7. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    What is "wrong"? Better yet, if you people were raised in a different society, would rape be bad? Then is it "Wrong" Think before you just spatter in uni-cultural boundaries.
     
  8. P_for_Platinum

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    Are you talking about being passed out or asleep? I can't imagine anyone sleeping through sex. And yes it's wrong.
     
  9. boek

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    it is wrong because you're violating someone without their consent, therefore RAPE, and rape is just BAD.
     
  10. Number6

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    Sex is a consensual act of reproduction, love or pleasure. Sex without consent is rape. Rape is an act of violence and enslavement, it is about exerting power over another person and bending them to your will. The only time violence is acceptable is in self-defense. Violence against another person for any reason other than self-defense is wrong, regardless of whether you get caught or not.
     
  11. Malapascua

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    This guy is thinking along the lines of :
    "If a tree fell in the woods and nobody heard it, did it make a sound?"

    Well, if you touch another person sexually without their knowledge, or permission, it is wrong, wheather they were aware of it or not. If you were able to pull it off (have sex with a woman without waking her) it would be wrong.

    You wanted reasons. One reason is all you need. It is against the law to violate another person this way, unless MAYBE it is you spouse, and then I don't think it would be considered rape.

    By the way, "Yes the tree falling in the woods makes a sound, even if nobody hears it."
    The displacement of air makes a sound, as does something hitting the ground.
     
  12. Zanarkand

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    Even if it is with your spouse, and without his/her knowledge, it is still a violation, and still considered rape.
     
  13. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    absolutely

    and theres no way to ever rape someone without consequences.. to both the raper and rapee
    how would you like to live your life..knowing you are a rapist...

    how would you like that to be found out..by everybody...
    who would ever trust you?
     
  14. Number6

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    I don't think the original poster really cares if there are consequences for his victim or not.
     
  15. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    there are consequences for him as well...
    he will always remember what he did...

    if he's really sick he might take it to the next level of rape..
    if not he will always feelthe guilt..maybe not till he matures alittle but he'll always feel it
    if he doesnt feel it its psychopathic tendencies perhaps? to the OP did u torture animals as a kid?
    just a question, not an assumption...
     
  16. Number6

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    Agreed, in fact this is what the post is all about, alleviating his own guilt. He hoping someone will give him a moral loophole.
     
  17. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    his argument for a loophole is based on him getting his load off and that makung it ok
     
  18. cn283

    cn283 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    that's like asking if its ok to rob someone if their asleep...of course its wrong, its a total violation of someone's privacy and rights.
     
  19. Mary Poppins

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    AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad:
     
  20. .Hannah.

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    I think some of you need to CHILL THE FUCK OUT.

    It seems more like a philosophical question than anything. Nice to know there are a lot of self-righteous people here nevertheless. Why are you so afraid to debate that it can go both ways?

    It's true that the person may walk away not knowing what happened. Another poster mentioned that it may register in the un/sub-conscious but there's also a possibility that it may not. If in the case that it does not, critically,

    Does what a person NOT know hurt them at all?

    Sure, there's justice and taking advantage of a sleeping body etc that's enough to get all your panties in a bunch, but did anyone actually stop to consider the question as just a musing thought?

    It's rather pathetic that some of you have to defer to shitty personal attacks. It says a lot about YOURSELF.

    I say to heck with your negative, rather shallow comments, and thank you to the thread poster who dared to ask such a question. People need to get out of their bubbles more often.
     
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