Rap is Crap

I agree, I dont like rap at all, i guess because down in my heart im just a metal chick, i cant help it, i love metal, hard rock, classic rock, i wish mtv would play something worth listening too, but i suppose they dont know what real music is. o well, i wish atleast there was one channel, i dont care if its cartoon network, just play some real music, please, b4 i create a channel of my own, oo thats not a bad idea. Peace, love, and ROCK N' ROLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

HAHAHA, just when you think the world is bad enough, out comes these c;lose minded dumbasses. They don't know what real music is? Who's to say rock is better than rap. You can have your opinions but I'm still going to laugh at your ignorance.

 

rap is crap, rap is crap

 

I'm a complete music slut so I like all forms of music including rap, mainstream is very anoying rubbish but so is vertually any genra that makes it big (money backed) these days.


Goldie Looking Chains - Safe as ***k boys. I just love these South Wales boyzzzzz, they don't take anything seriously especially rap and nothing is sacred or too gross/out of bounds. Thats rap music for me something thats not controlled by anyone yet alone big money. This might change I suppose as they are pretty big now.

http://www.youknowsit.co.uk/lowtech/

I can like this and at the moment I'm listening to Debussy, "Prelude no 8," I don't see the problem with mixing it all up.

P.s People on a hippy forum should "at least" like Del La Soul and a Tribe called Quest!

 

Goldie Looking Chains are funny hehe. Like I said, I don't really like rap but those guys are listenable. They ARE kinda taking the piss out of real rappers though...

 

I've actually only heard one of their songs, and I'd forgotten their name.

Just remember the mad welshie rappers.

 

Agreed tey take the piss but its also totally real life commentary though. Rap/hip hop has always been big in the UK in poorer parts of the cities, its just didn't sound right when they tried it themselves cause we don't go around with guns, cruising in fancy cars etc.

GLC are taking the piss out of what they have actually experienced and its really is funny especially when you compare it to the posturing of alot (definately not all) of US rap. What US rapper would rap about the cheap soap bar they get and the fact its the tar and bits of plastic that are really getting you high. Or thinking about back in the old days (before as they say they used to smoke draw) when they'd go down the roller disco, eating cola cubes and listening to Paul Hard Castles "19."

 

Class, what have we learned today?

Mainstream = BAD
Old school/Underground = GOOD

Take notes, this WILL be on the final

Seriously.... I agree with the general consensus. Just about anything you hear on the radio or watch on MTV or BET is going to commercialized. If you want good rap with a message, look into primarily underground/unsigned artists, or check out older rap/hip hop music.

Rap roots never had it's history in booty, sex, cars, or jewels, until someone came along and realized that it was a good marketing product.

MmmMmMmMmMmmm TUPAC!

 

I look at the name of this Poster:

Peace vbmenu_register("postmenu_401929", true);
In complete harmony.


Those are not the words of someone in "complete harmony." Those are the words of someone who puts too much value in the idle rantings of a message board...Someone who cares more about being "right" than about being "fair and balanced, and POLITE even..."

Those are the words of a teenage misanthrope...

 

I'm going to have to say the world got a favor with Tupac and that fat guy getting killed. Someone should take care of Snoop.

 

the great thing about rap "artist" is in a few years they burn through their money, have thier homes and cars repoed, and before you know it they are sucking dick for crack

 

ahh, surely you dont mean it??? Snoop is the shit!

 

I don't see how you can call this crap, when it's so different from what's on the radio.



[Talib Kweli]
Yo Dee (What?)
Come on (Yeah..)
What? What? Come on
(Yeah)

"Give me the fortune, keep the fame," said my man Louis
I agreed, know what he mean because we live the truest lie
I asked him why we follow the law of the bluest eye
He looked at me, he thought about it
Was like, "I'm clueless, why?"
The question was rhetorical, the answer is horrible
Our morals are out of place and got our lives full of sorrow
And so tomorrow comin later than usual
Waitin' on someone to pity us
While we findin beauty in the hideous
They say money's the root of all evil but I can't tell
YouknowhatImean, pesos, francs, yens, cowrie shells, dollar bills
Or is it the mindstate that's ill?
Creating crime rates to fill the new prisons they build
Over money and religion there's more blood to spill
The wounds of slaves in cotton fields that never heal
What's the deal?
A lot of cats who buy records are straight broke
But my language universal they be recitin my quotes
While R&B singers hit bad notes, we rock the boat
of thought, that my man Louis' statements just provoked
Caught up, in conversations of our personal worth
Brought up, through endangered species status on the planet Earth
Survival tactics means, bustin gats to prove you hard
Your firearms are too short to box with God
Without faith, all of that is illusionary
Raise my son, no vindication of manhood necessary

[M.D.] Not strong
[T.K.] Only aggressive
[M.D.] Not free
[T.K.] We only licensed
[M.D.] Not compassionate, only polite
[T.K.] Now who the nicest?
[M.D.] Not good but well behaved
[T.K.] Chasin after death
so we can call ourselves brave?
[M.D.] Still livin like mental slaves
[both] Hidin like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis makin you look twice
[both] Hidin like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis makin you look twice

[Mos Def]
Yo, I'm sure that everybody out listenin agree
That everything you see ain't really how it be
A lot of jokers out runnin in place, chasin the style
Be a lot goin on beneath the empty smile
Most cats in my area be lovin the hysteria
Synthesized surface conceals the interior
America, land of opportunity, mirages and camouflages
More than usually -- speakin loudly, sayin nothin
You confusin me, you losin me
Your game is twisted, want me enlisted -- in your usary
Foolishly, most men join the ranks cluelessly
Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception
Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the lookin glass
Walkin the street, wonderin who they be lookin past
Lookin gassed with them imported designer shades on
Stars shine bright, but the light -- rarely stays on
Same song, just remixed, different arrangement
Put you on a yacht but they won't call it a slaveship
Strangeness, you don't control this, you barely hold this
Screamin brand new, when they just sanitized the old shit
Suppose it's, just another clever Jedi mind trick
That they been runnin across stars through all the time with
I find it's distressin, there's never no in-between
We either niggaz or Kings
We either bitches or Queens
The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse
Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts
Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
The length of black life is treated with short worth
Get yours first, them other niggaz secondary
That type of illin that be fillin up the cemetery
This life is temporary but the soul is eternal
Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you
Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed
That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive
Not free, we only licensed
Not live, we just excitin
Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin
Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained
Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game
Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey
most of the things that we think, do, or say
We chasin after death just to call ourselves brave
But everyday, next man meet with the grave
I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
I'm tryin to live life in the sight of God's memory
Like that y'all

[Mos Def]
A lot of people don't understand the true criteria of things
Can't just accept the appearance
Have to get the true essence

[Talib Kweli]
They ain't lookin around

[M.D.] Not strong
[T.K.] Only aggressive
[M.D.] Not free
[T.K.] We only licensed
[M.D.] Not compassionate, only polite
[T.K.] Now who the nicest?
[M.D.] Not good but well behaved
[T.K.] Chasin after death
so we can call ourselves brave?
[M.D.] Still livin like mental slaves
[both] Hidin like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis makin you look twice
[both] Hidin like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis makin you look twice
[both] Hidin like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis makin you look twice
[both] Hidin like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis makin you look twice

[Mos Def (singing)]
Stop hidin, stop hidin, stop hidin yo' face
Stop hidin, stop hidin, cause ain't no hidin place
* repeat 2X*

(Ad libs to fade)

 

Yup that's crap. That just reinforces what I'm trying to say.

 

so if those lyrics were put on a different beat, and delivered in a different way, such as singing, would it still be crap?

 

Yes and just because of the message it is putting forth.

 

what is the message you are getting?

 

Money and bitches.

 

that had nothing to do with money or bitches

 

well...by money, you mean that money causes a problem...which they are saying it does. They are asking is money and greed a reason for people going to jail. He's not saying anything about how much money he has. And he is saying that the mainstream hip hop industry is so hypocritical...because women are either bitches or queens. He is in no way supporting any of it.