Ranking U.S. Presidents 1-42....best to worst

Discussion in 'History' started by Jim Colyer, Dec 30, 2005.

  1. habbiten

    habbiten Member

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    as far as I've heard, sorry guys, but all of your presidents have been one of the greatest bastards of their time. maybe it's their job, but still. you're not a good guy if you go to war.

    and did you know that 75 % of the population in europe thinks George W. Bush is the biggest threat to their peace.

    only the thing that you like some of your presidents show's how much propaganda you have to stick up to.

    I hope you don't take offence, norwegian and other european leaders are just as big bastards as the american leaders.
     
  2. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    To reply to Habbiten-75% of Europeans believe that Bush is the biggest threat to their (and everyone else's) peace-they're right. Unfortunately, not nearly enough Americans feel the same way. I don't know off-hand who I would rank at the top of the President's list, but George W. Bush would be absolutely at rock bottom.
     
  3. BlueFlower

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    I think that the best U.S. President was Jimmy Carter.
     
  4. BlueFlower

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    Jimmy Carter, the late 1970's.
     
  5. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    You know, even Carter's worst detractors admit that he was very honest, which hardly any politicians ever get accused of. I remember Carter. He was a misunderstood person because he really didn't like putting on airs-what you saw was what you got. He also had a lot of humility, which is unusual for politicians. Unfortunately, a lot of Americans would rather have a president that has this macho, cowboy, we're-better-than-anybody-else-and-we're-gonna-kick-your-ass kind of mentality, than to have someone that is honest and admits that we're not right about everything. All I can say is that I've lived long enough to have learned my political lessons the hard way.
     
  6. Namaste

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    In no particular order...

    Best:
    1. Washington
    2. FDR
    3. T. Roosevelt
    4. Lincoln
    5. Jefferson

    Honorable Mention: JFK and Clinton

    Worst:
    1. Filmore
    2. George W. Bush
    3. Carter (Amazing humanitarian and ambassador, awful president)
    4. Nixon
    5. Hoover

    Dishonorable Mention: Reagan
     
  7. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    This type of emphasis on leadership is misplaced. More important than the actions of heads of state are the actions of the workers. Perhaps it is the reactionary mentality of American workers that has led to the election of so many reactionary, imperialist American presidents.

    Having said that, I could give passing marks to
    Jimmy Carter
    Franklin Roosevelt
    John Kennedy
    Bill Clinton
    (no order intended) in the twentieth century, and thumbs down on the rest. I'm not knowledgeable enough about the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries to comment.

    Worst Presidents:
    Abraham Lincoln - if the southerners want out, let them out. That's freedom.
    Lyndon Johnson - Escalated American participation in the Vietnam conflict.
    George W. Bush - Got involved militarily in Iraq and Afghanistan for no good reason.
    Harry Truman - Responsible for mass murder of Japanese civilians.
    Dwight Eisenhower - While a commanding general in WWII, signed the execution order for Private Edward Slovik for refusing combat.
    Ronald Reagan - meddled in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Panama.
     
  8. Ray Krebbs

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    Top 10

    1. George Washington = GREATNESS (should be put on all list all by himself)

    2. John Adams
    3. Harry Truman
    4. Andrew Jackson
    5. James Madison
    6. Teddy Roosevelt
    7. John F. Kennedy
    8. Richard Nixon
    9. Ronald Reagan
    10. Gerald Ford
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    Bottom Three

    Lincoln
    - Although, I consider it unfair because he wasn't able to see Recunstruction through. And because I actually admire him as a man. But a good president would've found a solution other than The Civil War.

    Jimmy Carter
    - Had no business being President. Groomed puppet of the Tri-Laterals.

    Lyndon B. Johnson
    - One of the worst people in all of history in my opinion! Should actually be on a list all of his own!
     
  9. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    read up on your history. The civil war was pretty much the LAST thing lincoln wanted.
     
  10. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    LMAO!

    good old washington is probably at the top of my list.


    GWB jr. definatly at the bottom. He has taken more days off than any other pres. in history.
    And if you look at America 8 years ago, compared to now, virtually everyone was better off before he came into the white house. I can't find one single reason for him to run as president, other than to finish his daddy's agenda, and to kill sadam b/c he tried to get pops assassinated.

    They probably watch the video of his hanging at every family gathering.

    Thanks for the war, bush!
     
  11. themnax

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    there are no best. only least worst. jackson; indiginous genocide. g. washington too. earned the name of village burner. the adamses had maybe some good ideas. but none of the fraimers of the best concepts politicians have tried to take credit for ever got elected to federal level office.

    not payne, or even franklin. and were they even the saints politically motivated 'historians' make them out to be? not bloody likely.

    carter was decent because he didn't stay bought. of course he didn't last very long because of it either. kennidy was able to buy himself. not a likely road to sainthood, but it gave him the elbow room to TRY and be decent and do the right things.

    a lot of people who were around then, and a few of the more honest historians now, like harry truman. fdr did good things along with bad too.

    like i say there haven't been any of them saints. they haven't all been idiots or screw ups or monsters entirely. but non of them saints. or even anyone i would pick for my first choice for anyone to be in that position. assuming i would even choose for anyone TO be in that position, which is quite a stretch of it all by itself.

    no, america is too big for its own good or anybody else's. just as a lot of other places from time to time have been also. and even before it was, most of the time popular culture and dominant 'leaders' alike, have BOTH mostly had their heads screwed on at least slightly bassackwards.

    not that popular culture has to stay that way. sometimes, when things get the most messed up, have been allowed to, then a lot of people start to recognize we don't really have to keep keeping them that way.

    i really do believe an era will come when all of that will chainge. but i wouldn't expect anyone we've ever had for president to have been able to pull it off.

    not that gaining that office is all that much of a magic wand for anyone. that's another one of those myths. give a good enough hearted person enough personal authority and power and they'll fix everything up.

    sorry, it don't quite work that way. we do need 'leaders' who won't get in the way of fixing what needs to be. not dependence on expecting them to.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  12. evil i 13

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    1. Jefferson

    2. Jackson
    3. Carter
    4. The Kennedy i was raised to believe in.
    5. Washington
    6. Truman
    These guys seem okay, but who knows? History is a pathological liar.
     
  13. SpreadneckGA

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    Thomas Jefferson
     
  14. somenerdyfreak

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    1. Teddy Roosevelt
    2.Harry Truman
    3. Reagen master-general
    4. JFK
    5. Polk
    6. Thomas Jefferson
    7. Fightin' Millard Filmore
    8. Andrew Jackson
    9. George Washingotn
    10. Wilson
    11. Dwight Eisenhower
    12. James Madison
    13. McKinley
    14. HW Bush
    15. LBJ
    16. Abe Lincoln
    17. Henry Harrison
    18. Hoover
    19. FDR
    20. Gerald Ford
    21. Monroe
    22. John Adams
    23. Buchanan (representing PA)
    24. Grover Cleveland (2nd term)
    25. Chester A Arthur
    26. Hayes
    27. Cleveland (1st term)
    28. John Tyler
    29. Zachary Taylor
    30-40 the others
    41. Today's Bush
    42. Clinton
    43. Lousy Richard M. Nixon.......not cus of watergate, but his initiation of the Controlled Substance Act
     
  15. Bonkai

    Bonkai Later guys

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    Notice that this was written in 2005 but I still have to laugh, cause i knew better then and now.
     
  16. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    One huge list of failure.
     
  17. KaiBailey

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    I think that from what I know of history, Thomas Jefferson is my favorite of the presidents. Great man! I wish we still had him leading this country.

    My least favorite presidents are Ronald Reagan, and Andrew Jackson.

    Ronald, ofcourse is very popular among americans, because of his wonderful charisma. But that was all a way to make people like him, I feel. I never thought his actions as president were all that glorious.

    In terms of Andrew Jackson, he did a lot of great things, but in terms of Indians, he hated them. That never sat well with me at all. I suppose all presidents will have their bad sides, but he took it horribly far.

    But that's all just my boring old opinion!

    :)
     
  18. avhp

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    here's my list of presidents, best to worst:

    1. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (pulled this country through so much, and showed great leadership throughout)
    2. Lincoln
    3. Washington
    4. Teddy Roosevelt
    5. John F. Kennedy
    6. Bill Clinton (don't know why some people hate him. he may have had an affair, but I don't care. He still did, or at least tried to do, a lot of good for this country. Unfortunately a conservative congress tried their best to stop him and smear his image)
    7. Woodrow Wilson
    8. Thomas Jefferson
    9. Richard Nixon (if you take out watergate, he did a lot of good. started déténte era in the Cold War. improved relationship with Soviet Union and China)
    10. James Madison
    11. James Monroe
    12. Harry Truman
    13. Dwight D. Eisenhower
    14. William Mckinley
    15. Carter
    16. Ford
    17. Cleveland
    18. Lyndon B. Johnson (I have very mixed feelings about this man. He did do a lot of good, or tried to, with his Great Society and Civil Rights programs. But then again, there's Vietnam. If it weren't for Vietnam he'd be in my top 5)
    19. Coolidge
    20. Hayes
    21. John Adams
    22. John Q. Adams
    23. Benjamin Harrison
    24. Chester Arthur
    25. Harding
    26. Taft
    27. Andrew Jackson (did some good, and some bad. again, mixed feelings)
    28. John Tyler
    29. Garfield
    30. William Henry Harrison
    31. George H. Bush (41st)
    32. Zachary Taylor
    33. Millard Filmore
    34. James Buchanan
    35. Ulysses S. Grant (I don't hate Grant, but his administration. he was taken advantage of as president. wasn't a bad guy, but probably not fit to be president)
    36. Franlin Pierce
    37. Van Buren
    38. Hoover
    39. Polk
    40. Ronald Reagan
    41. George W Bush (43rd)
    42. Andrew Johnson
     
  19. weedwhacker

    weedwhacker TFM Bro!

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    Lincoln as worst president ever!!!? Are you out of your mind!??
     
  20. avhp

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    why'd you put Clinton as 42??
     

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