Random Thoughts on Atheism

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Apples+Oranjes, Sep 14, 2005.

  1. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    You're wrong.

    Atheism is LACK OF THEISM. It is not not not a belief system or religion. You DISBELIEVE in theism because there is no EVIDENCE.

    THEISM makes a universal claim, ATHEISM doubts this claim.
     
  2. Soulless||Chaos

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    No, atheism is a belief system, it's the belief of the incorrectness of theism or somesuch. :D You sure do get defensive dontcha? :D
     
  3. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Atheism makes no claim. It merely doubts one.
     
  4. Soulless||Chaos

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    Lalala :D
     
  5. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    [French athéisme, from athée, atheist, from Greek atheos, godless : a-, without; see a-1 + theos, god; see dhs- in Indo-European Roots.]

    EXACTLY... a (without) theism.

    Theism is a claim.

    I am WITHOUT that claim.
     
  6. Soulless||Chaos

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    A - without, theism (theos - god). Without god.. Belief there is no god. :rolleyes: What a pointless argument you've brought us to. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Not a BELIEF.

    Do you understand the concept of opposites?

    Weren't you taught that in elementary school with the rest of us?
     
  8. Soulless||Chaos

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    You're like a small child, strainer to yell your argument louder as though that will somehow make it more true. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Soulless||Chaos

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    So, do you believe that god does not exist? :D
     
  10. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I doubt the existence of any "gods".
     
  11. Soulless||Chaos

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    So then you are uncertain? :rolleyes:
     
  12. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I am certain that I LACK BELIEF any "gods".

    No evidence.
     
  13. Soulless||Chaos

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    So then as I had said, you believe there is no god? :rolleyes:
     
  14. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Nope. I LACK belief in any gods.

    I don't "believe" there is no god. To believe something means you have to have some sort of reason, I hate to use the word evidence (but, so be it), and I have no evidence to believe there is no god.

    I lack belief because of lack of reason for the belief.

    PS. And would you please stop with continuous "eye roll" as if you are some condescending superior genius...because you're not.
     
  15. Soulless||Chaos

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    So back again we are, to the question before.. So you're unsure? :rolleyes:
     
  16. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    No, I am very sure I lack belief in any gods.
     
  17. Soulless||Chaos

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    As sure as you are that you lack belief in there not being any gods? :rolleyes:
     
  18. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Atheism is the absence of belief in a deity.
    Agnosticism is the absence of knowledge.

    I am not debating KNOWING there are any gods.
    I stated that I lack BELIEF in any gods and I do.

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  19. Colours

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    evidence and belief are two words shouldnt be in the same sentence..
     
  20. m6m

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    The Symbolic existence of God reveals the collective Pathos shared by an entire culture.

    We deny the Symbolic existence of God to absolve ourselves of any responsibility for the Pathos that are revealed by that Symbolism.

    Just like Fundamentalist who likewise deny God's Symbolism, and absolve themselves of responsibility by pointing to God's Literal Authority.

    Either way is a cop-out for those of us who do NOT want to strip our Symbolic-Selves naked and reveal the hairy-smelly impulses of our Primate Motivations.


    The Symbolical reveals the hidden collective-unconscious motivating roots behind the superficial Literal message.
     
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