Racism

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  1. Tishomingo

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    Question begging again? Jussie, yes. Bubba, not proven. The pull did look like a noose. Trump and Kayleigh made the connection, without basis as ususal. Why Jussie? Fame and money, probably. Why are Trump and Kayleigh such pathologica lowlifes? For Trump, ask his sister, or read her book.
     
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  3. Tishomingo

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    I agree with the sentiment. It makes no sense to hold people responsible for the sins of their ancestors. Blaming somebody for the color of their skin is racist, regardless of which group does it.
     
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    NO it wasn't Hitler it was a psychologist or someone like that who did the research, plus when you think about it it's human nature to behave like that, it's just like being in the pub, you will spend more time chatting to someone you have something in common with than someone you don't.
     
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    "In the original study, published on 22 July in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), researchers at Michigan State University and the University of Maryland compiled a list of more than 900 fatal U.S. police shootings in 2015 using crowdsourced databases from The Washington Post and The Guardian. Then, they asked police departments for information about the race of the officers responsible for the shootings. They found black police were more likely to kill black civilians than white civilians. However, the same held true for white and Hispanic officers: Each group of police was likelier to shoot civilians of their own race. That’s likely true, the researchers say, because police tend to be drawn from the communities they work in and are thus more likely to have deadly encounters with civilians of the same race. They concluded there were no antiblack or anti-Hispanic disparities across police shootings—which, critics say, should not be used to jump to conclusions of no racial bias."

    Study that claims white police no more likely to shoot minorities draws fire | Science | AAAS
     
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  7. hotwater

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    George Floyd wasn't shot, Duh!
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You are in the racism thread, not the George Floyd thread
     
  9. soulcompromise

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    I detest racism.

    To me it's really simple. It's not even a choice.
     
  10. Tishomingo

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    "A psychologist or someone like that". Not impressive credentials. But I think the point is obvious enough I wonder who would doubt it? People are more comfortable with the familiar, and also are prone to make snap judgments on the basis of superficial cues--height, weight, dress, etc-- which by and large serves them well but can sometimes lead to misjudgments. There's an African-American guy at the pharmacy I was leery of because of a pretty wild hairdo. When he started to talk though, my impression changed immediately because he spoke the King's english and was obviously well-educated and well-mannered.

    Most of my contacts with African-Americans are at work, and I get along well with them. Some of the guys I eat lunch with are African-Americans, and they include some of the guys I trust the most, which is more than I can say of everybody at work. The problem comes when people are so uptight about the issue change their job or neighborhood or even move to a different state in order to avoid contact with people of another race--not because of just a preference to be with people like them, but a downright obsession about it or a phobia about being in contact with others. That's racism. Gloomy doesn't seem to be that bad, but he has a preoccupation with the issue that seems odd.
     
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    The reason I said a psychologist or someone like that is that it was a long time ago when I read it, I really am sorry I cannot remember the guys name for you, but I had a breakdown a couple of years ago! I don't have problems working with anyone, black, white, gay, lesbian or whatever, what I do have a real fucking problem with is stupid fuckwits who think the word owes them a living, they want the job but don't want to get the required qualifications first then try and get what they want by playing the race card, gay card or whatever.
     
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  12. Tishomingo

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    I have the same problem with people like that. I have to prioritize the things I gripe about on HF.
     
  13. 6-eyed shaman

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    Yes but if you believe certain races need a helping hand from government in order to achieve success, then I have some bad news for you
     
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    Did you even read it? It says the data is not correct. It's junk science because not enough is known.

    “It’s just a completely indefensible conclusion to draw from the data that’s available,” says Dean Knox, a political scientist at Princeton University who published a critique of the study this month. To begin to justify such a claim, he says, researchers would need to know how often black and white civilians encounter police officers—something the authors of the original study did not consider in the paper.

    And police rarely if ever live close to the area they police in America. Unions push for them to be separate from the job. No one wants revenge for a speeding ticket. And just speaking from my own experiences as a middle class white guy even the cops in my areas were punished for tickets my peers thought were wrong. No one died but their personal life was made annoying. What happens when a Blood or Crip wants justice? It's not dog poop on the door or calling 10 different plumbers.

    Police will be the first ones to tell you what victims they are. You really think they would ignore the chance to remind you they "have to" make a 45 minute commute to keep the streets safe for you? Once again you don't get America.
     
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    George Floyd: Pew survey on US attitudes to police reveals changes

    "A solid majority, 58%, still say police do a good or excellent job of protecting people from crime, down just 4% since 2016.

    Declines are more pronounced, however, in other categories: using the right amount of force, treating racial and ethnic groups equally, and holding officers accountable for misconduct.

    In each of these areas, approval dropped by at least 10%, with just about one third of the American public giving police forces positive ratings.


    And the gaps in police approval were even wider along partisan and racial lines.

    Two-thirds of white adults, for example, said the police were doing a good or excellent job at protecting the public, while half of Hispanic adults and just 28% of black adults agreed.

    In every aspect of policing, Democrats are less likely than Republicans to view police favourably.

    For example, while 89% of Republicans see police as treating racial groups equally, just 10% of Democrats say the same."




    'Majority of Americans' want power to sue police



    Funny how democrats see the police as so much worse over the last 4 years
     
  16. unfocusedanakin

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    Not surprising the people who are far more likely to be white and racist would also say racism is not a problem. Go to Green Bay and ask how many people think the Vikings are going to win the Super Bowl. Same idea.

    Racists in America don't like to call themselves that. It's a nasty term put on them by actual racists. They just want a calm and peaceful social order and feel no shame calling out the groups who make trouble which are usually those who don't look or think like them. It's just natural to group up with your own after all.
     
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    Funny how I don't see anything about what the 2016 level of support by Democrats was, so it's hard to see how much worse Democrats see police treating racial groups equally since 2016.
     
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    Affirmative action was developed to address racial inequality and racial exclusion in American society. And at least according to a number of studies I’ve read seems to be working as advertised.

    To use one example, black college students who benefited from affirmative action do better in the long-run than their peers who went to lower-status universities.
    They generally end up in better higher paying jobs, and participate more often in the community.

    6 you’re probably asking yourself how it benefits you,

    Well those same studies have also revealed that their white classmates generally come away with a more positive attitude towards blacks and other racial minorities,

    That alone should warrant its continuation, and teach you a very valuable lesson.
     
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    Wow! It doesn't get any more local than this.............

    Man Cited For Driving Pickup Truck Through Crowd Of Newton ‘Black Lives Matter’ Protesters

    NEWTON (CBS) – A 55-year-old driver was cited by police after he allegedly sped through a crowd of Black Lives Matter demonstrators at Newton City Hall on Tuesday.

    Police did not identify the Needham man.

    He was charged with operating a motor vehicle to endanger and failure to use care when starting a motor vehicle.


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