Living in communes does change the world; one piece of land at a time. The saying "think globally, act locally" comes to mind. The more self-sufficient you are, the less you need to rely on the oppression of others to sustain yourself. And if you live in a way that minimizes the negative effects of your being alive, maybe other people will see what you're doing and try to live their lives in a similar way. Honestly, it's a far more effective form of activism than protesting is. -Bubble
'zactly bubble. The first step in solving any problem is to stop adding to it. I have plenty of "activist" friends condeming the system with their mouths while their supporting it with their money. Does anybody think the corporations care what we say about them as long as we're making them rich? Exp: A friend of mine has a breadtruck covered in pro-earth, anti-war bumper stickers-- "Save the Earth" "Impeach Bush" "Get out of Iraq"...--and he drives it all over the place "spreading the message" ...at somewhere between 6 to 8 miles to the gallon. I'm like, "DUDE! YOU JUST--DON'T--GET IT!"
you are beyond my scope of experience except for short time in my life. I have never liked the idea of living with a bunch of people because there are always rude ones among them trying to change me. I remember two people trying to tell me how to spend my food stamps to better feed 3 people while one of them spent his food stamps on 5-6 buck bags of beef jerky.....among other control freak tactics. Of course I allowed this overriding my mean, nasty and downright aggressive nature using blocking techniques to see where a communal situation leads.......and no I do not think it is possible to pick and choose more than one person to be around you. Another thing, it always greatly upset me when 2 friends fought in front of me. And yes I did feel compelled to fix the situation for my own peace of mind by explaining what I thought the root emotional clash was about. I never considered myself rude for trying to fix my little corner of the world, bout all I can fix at one time anyways, pure luck if I did though. Some people are brought up in a family that thrives on arguements, those people go out and meet non-family that grew up in similar family environments. I don't think they argue for the fun of it, they argue for the feeling of making up afterwards sometimes. They argue to feel fufilled and comfortably "at home". They are scared to live without anger in their life. It may well be a defensive action unique to humans in which a stranger(s) won't attack or bother 2 people engaged in a verbal disagreement, could be handed down through DNA from generations of people who associated with dangerous people and had no choice doing so.......poor people. People in hard bygone times that lived in cities and had to deal with shortages of food, multiple contacts with people during the day, one of whom, with a bad attitude could change anyones pleasnat attitude to a nasty one the rest of the day. Yeah......entire cities get riled up and this scares off agression from other countries. Like I mentioned at the beginning, when I blocked my mean, nasty andc losed nature to see what would happen I was put upon by a lot of screwed up angry people, confused at least. This taught me temperment or temperance, taught me patience without being a silent bystander, do you hear me......lol......I guess not I like to still think of myself as downright aggressive, but instead of mean and nasty, kind and nice. peace, rest, sleep and joy Honor Seed
You nailed it Honorseed. I've been on a few communes and lived in a few co-operatives and from what I've seen there's almost always a few control freaks and passive-aggressive comandos, and it only takes a few to screw up what could otherwise be a good thing. Then again I've been on a cpl that seemed to function just fine on their own without anybody having to control anything. Everybody did what they could and everything just kind of fell into place. In those situations it's amazing to see how little effort it takes from each person to make sure everyone gets what they need (and how little drama there is).
The community I lived in back in the early 70's was an organic farm/dairy. In the summer months we grew veggies and herbs and we made cheese which we sold. We also had a peach orchard which supplied us with all the fruit we could eat and sell. During the winter the work load was less so we made leather goods, tie-dye and other crafts and a few people would get work outside the farm.Tis alot of work...and there is the problem. It seemed like most of the work was done by the same people. Since not one person was what you call "the boss" certain folks were abit slack or too stoned to do their fair share and needed to be prodded along. So sometimes there would be hard feelings. We didn't have any real control freaks to speak of; however you wanna eat you gotta help. In those days we took part in the sacrament; but you weren't suppose to be high all the time...time and place you know...It was an experience I don't regret. You really learn to know and love people when you live and work together as a family...even the slackers.
I would love to try communal living for some amount of time. I think that the general purpose of it is wonderful and it would be an experience at the very least. One that I'm sure I would learn a lot from.