question wrong or right?

agreed. and the troll is ignored.

but hhb
bless his heart
he thinks i have no hope
and that hurts me
cause i do
he words thinks sometimes n it hurts

 

Sometimes you gotta be cruel to be kind.

 

ok.................my opinion.................yes it is wrong to leave a person that is over-dosing. If you are so freaked out that you have to leave.............call the paramedics first to at least make sure help is on the way............but.................at some point we have to accept responsibility for our own actions. its not dude's fault you od, it's yours. its just easier for you bf to blame dude insted of you.

 

YOu don't think she is looking at herself? All you know is what she posts on here. You don't know what she's thinking about and feeling when she's not here, so you have no right to say she's not looking into herself and trying to get better, because you don't know the whole situation. I'm sure there's more she could do, and I'll give you that, but that doesn't mean she's not trying. Just because you're a former addict doesn't mean you know her situation, because you're not her. I mean no offense by any of that. I'm just saying you don't know the full scope of her situation, and neither do I. Only she does, and none of us know what's best for her better than she does. Being a former addict, you should understand better than anyone that it's not easy and that it takes time; and benzo addiction is among the most difficult and most dangerous addictions to kick, as the withdrawals can actually be fatal, so of course it's gonna take time and be very hard to get past.

 

All I know is what she posts on here, correct.

And as I have said in this and other threads, I wish her nothing but the best.

 

Anyway, it's 6am and I have to go to work real soon.

Goodnight and good luck.

 

I know man. I understand that. I want the same thing.

 

That's a terrible way to look at it. You should approach quitting with an optimistic attitude. You cannot dwell on how it's hard addict and how it takes time. I'm sure that she doesn't take enough benzos to have "fatal" withdrawals. You should approach it like a challange, and not an overly difficult task. Saying that it's gonna take time and be very hard to get past only creates excuses. As her friend, you should be telling her about how easy it is to break an addiction if you're truly committed to breaking it. Achieving that level of commitment is usually the hardest part, not quitting itself. An addict needs a whole lot of support to quit that addiction.... while instead you're her benzo buddy... no good.

You also make the mistake of trying to defend her (even though she's more than capable of defending herself) against Red out of all people, who's only trying to help the girl out and isn't even being an ass or anything.

 

noone is hopeless,,i was a JUNKIE for 7 years and a alcoholic for 20..
BEEN DRUG FREE FOR 20 YEARS AND BOOZE FREE FOR OVER A YEAR..

i think your in denial,i think your doing what every addict does till they wise up and that is to blame the drugs,blame the people around you,blame the doctors,blame anyone except for whom the blame squarely lies on..
YOURSELF!!!!!!!!

ive watched you for years now and frankly i dont care what TNS says,, i dont see you succeeding at getting drug free until you learn that it is you and you alone that must make the changes in your life so that you and you alone can be drug free..

i do not see you staying clean an sober for ANY length of time even if you were to ween yourself off benzos with your mindset..

ive read this shit for years and years and its always the same old shit and the classic "this time its different",but your attitude doesnt change about it all..

so while i dont think your "hopeless",,i also dont see you accomplishing what it is you say you are going to at this point in time,with the attitude you still have..

personal responsibility is the only way to a drug free sober life..
no matter whos hand your hangin on tryin to get there....

for someone who "doesnt wanna be lectured",,you sure have a way of forcing people to do so......

 

I know what you mean man. And honestly, I haven't taken any benzos in weeks and I've told her that I hope she gets past it soon, so I don't appreciate the "benzo buddy" comment. She knows she can get past it and I know she can too, but it really is hard and she's scared, understandably. I'm certainly not gonna lie to her and tell her it's easy to get past ANY addiction, because it's not, but it can be done with commitment and determination. I've told her this, and she tells herself the same thing, but she has no delusions about it; she knows it's not gonna be easy, but that it can be done. You can know it's gonna be diffictult and still be optimistic; while she realizes that it's gonna be difficult, she still knows she can do it. She's a strong woman and has been through worse situations than this, and she's gonna do what she needs to do.

I haven't once defended her actions, but I have definitely said that she is getting better, because she is. She fukt up the other night and mixed H with valium and she knows it was a mistake, which is what's important, along with the fact that she survived. I even told her beforehand that mixing opiates and benzos is very dangerous, and now she know that for a fact.

I know red isn't being an ass and that he wants to help.....I understand that completely. He's obviously a good guy.

 

This thread (and i don't mean the person who posted it) outlines everything I hate about human nature. Not necessarily that its evil, or bad, but that its so deeply stubborn, fixated, insecure, overly loose and overly rigid at the same time and what could normally be a healthy, and well directioned argument on a serious topic becomes a tangled up web of sad bickering. Before you get upset with me, which you no doubt will, I am one of the worst.

 

She was talking about quitting benzos months ago.

...and now this.


I agree with HHB all the way, she needs an attitude change.

 

trish, i'm glad that you didn't OD
i'm appalled at the guy for leaving you
i'm appalled at the fact that you're doing shit like this
but i'm glad that you're learning these lessons even if they're hard
i haven't done drugs in months and i've cut those drug "friends" out of my life
it's a hard thing to do but you need to do it
i completely agree with red's comment about people doing drugs with you doesn't make them your friends
and drugs fuck with peoples heads and in certain situations they're not the same people
they might be lovely amazing people on certain drugs and completely psychotic on others
and every drug is different
every time you do drugs it will be different

 

just to do the heroin AT ALL,while supposedly trying to kick benzos not only shows a lack of commitment but it also shows that she will more than likely just trade one addiction for another or just mix and match daily as has been the case in the past..
its easy to say your not a drug addict when you switch around the drugs your doin..
but the fact is if your doin drugs everyday,,even if they aint the same drug.. your an addict..
plain and simple...

and i assure you binge drug abuse "once a month or so" , is no different than a alcoholic binge drinking once in a while..
its just as detrimental to yourself and those around you and quite frankly it can kill you a helluva lot faster....

drug free is just that..

and trish dont go sayin i dont know what im talkin about when it comes to your past alcohol and drug abuse.. dont you dare..

you know i do....

 

Drugs r bad mmkay

 

That may be, but it certainly doesn't mean she hasn't made progress, because she has.

And HHB.....she has never denied being an addict.

 

it just dawned on me,,this thread explains A LOT about yesterdays thread that was closed...

just a observation....

 

come on dude,, in this thread shes said "i dont need it","i dont do it all the time","im not addicted to it",, that is not a addict admitting there an addict...

while she wasnt speaking of the benzos,,for a addict drugs are drugs,,you should know that,,

therefore,that is complete an utter denial IMO...

 

I don't agree with that at all. You're implying that if someone is addicted to something, it automatically means they're addicted to everything. Just because she's a benzo addict doesn't make her a heroin addict.

 

*sigh*