question for the fakers out there

hate is great

 

Doesn't seem that strong in context. Now if he'd said he hated all followers of religions, that would be strong. Hating a concept ain't no thing.

 

why would those be babylonian interests. it's music. if you're talking about the general commerical and whatnot things that tend to go with those, then i suppose. but if you enjoy the music, i dont see where there's a problem.

as far as reggae goes, punk got along quite well with it. they both had that mash down the system anti-establishment vibe

some punk parties a few decades ago, when the punk scene was still rather new and there werent any records around, reggae was played quite often, and they ended up really diggin it. that story involves Mr.Marley too, he was readin the english newspaper and got quite the mainstream view of the punks, that they were vile and evil and messy and whatever, until he was introduced to the culture in a more real way....after that the song "punky reggae party" was born. that story's taken from a dub documentary.

just like dancehall and rubadub styles got quite mixed with hiphop, it was originally also a rather positive form of music and the voice of the people, a vehicle to stop violence etc, similar to jazz and so on (that changed and went into many directions ofcourse) ..

anyway what im saying is, the music itself shouldnt be much of a problem to some judging rasta person, its still about your actions and beliefs, and every music genre is connected to every other music genre in atleast some ways and all in all its just music.

yet this is just about reggae, and not rastafarI ...so not sure why i wrote this, but i guess im interested why you find hiphop, ska and punk 'babylonian interests' (unless you directly mean the mainstream music industry and the capitalistic commercial ways of the system)

 

Ahoy ... Cool

 

Ahoy … Nah, I was just kidding. I’ve been into Punk, Ska and Hip Hop long before finding an interest in H.I.M. … or locks. I had a mohawk throughout my early twenties back in the first half of the ‘90s. From the ‘80s to the ‘90s, music for me was anything from Public Enemy to Chaos UK, Run DMC to Conflict, Citizen Fish, Minor Threat, Disorder NWA … Rancid and Cypress Hill a bit later … But most of all and for many years, Crass and anything on Crass Records.

Then one day in ’96, another day of Punk and Disorderly, I bumped into a group of Rasta that chanted me down, burnt the bushes for ‘demons (LOL) … the whole trip … so I had to find out why … and I did.

Oh yes, Marley said it was good for the youth in the West to be Punk and reject governments.

 

nailed it... I have nothing against religious followers... especially people raised to believe a certain thing, its not an easy thing to overcome, but I do hate organized religion in any shape or form. I think its stupid to try to lump everyone's belief's into a category and toss a title on it. I think beliefs are a personal conclusion that you should come to on your own through personal experience, not something someone tells you is right that you blindly accept or that you throw on your life after hearing and twist to make it fit. I also think that if something is innately true about the world, it should be evident in the world itself and shouldn't have to be read in a book to be "realized".

I also think that most accounts of a "god" in various religions sound like narcissistic childish pricks that I wouldn't follow even if they did/do exist.
but that's just my opinion...

 

hate, not money, is what makes the world go 'round...

 

:cheers2:

 

this is an old thread I think.. but i do agree with that...

 

i agree wholeheartedly with your agreeing to what i said previously.

:cheers2: have a beer

 

Ahoy … I disagree with what you are both agreeing on.

Sure the capitalist model has gone totally overboard in the new millennium, with marketing all sorts of products, but Marley was a marketed product long before he passed on. Rita and Perry were doing back then what is being done today. When Rita became the manager and Perry sent the recordings to the UK, it became a business venture, to the extent that Marley doesn’t even have to exist in the flesh for the business to operate and make a profit … and a business that Marley consented to himself and an approach that Tosh was in no way comfortable with. Through Marley as a product, Rasta can generate an income … and maybe, maybe, some people might be encouraged to actually learn something about H.I.M.

 

ahoy! good point but do you really think shirts with bob marley smoking a joint is really going to encourage people to learn about H.I.M. ?

 

I'll repeat my previous sentiments with regards to rastafarianism, specifically the less people know about rasta the better for rasta.

 

Wow ... Wow ... Wow!

We back here again, crazy stuff, this thread was the reason I joined the forum … Awesome!

 

Bro ... my head's hurting trying to think about what you have said, would it really be better?

 

Well if one looks at rasta from some imagined objective and secular view then it's religious credibility is right up there with scientology and mormon, and it starts to look an awful lot like a feelgood religion for angry young black men that has somehow managed to survive for a century, and in doing so has kinda had it's rather "dubious" origins obscured by the mists of time. Hence the less people in general know about it, the better it is for rasta.

 

i agree with you a second time

 

For Sure Pypes, I agree with you too.

Only thing is, how does one reconcile what is clearly a logical reasoning of yours with the other aspect of His Majesty choosing to take the biblical culture out of self-isolation?

 

The world would be a better place if there were no religion at all.

 

But If There Was No Religion, Who Would The "God Bother's" Bother.



Cheers Glen.