QuÉbec Is Now It's Own Nation!

I dont see Canada as like Checzkslovikia either.


If Quebeck independence happens, down the road it could be a similar experience.

 

dare I rehash my 'child moving out of mom & dad's house' analogy on this one? ... maybe not.

I much agree with the history of the French in this country, at least with the ones who've made much ado about this whole issue. Resorting to extremes, I don't think, did much for the vote pro-separation. If separation is a valid issue, than Quebec gov't ought to have a better game plan going about it.

I hope that a rift wouldn't be formed... much like the physical separation of Alaska from the rest of the US, I don't think there's much of a problem, as far as I know.

 

the only reason theres a physical rift between alaska and the states is cause alaska used to be a part of canada and the americans bought it from us...

 

nope , they bought it from russia, we never owned it

 

duuude..you're right..

 

Blinkin: You just talk about money and you seem to look for trouble about this issue. It's sad men.

Alberta is a bigger problem for Canada: lots of toxical emissions, healt, environment would be picking-down, and petrol is solding for the lower price in the world like in a dominated extraction colonialism. It's a reel non-sense. The wind is full of pollution from west to east. The international concert for reduce de climatic perturbators is flowed down by Alberta. Then in 20-30 next years, It will be keep chimical soups, deforesations, troubles of healt, lots of abandonned extractions places, no water, toxical lands, and money will fly away.

Quebec have a pretty good economy. We don't need Ottawa for ruling our social services. But Ottawa takes an over taxation since mid 90th. That's the facts.

Th situation is not between Quebec and the rest of Canada. In between Quebec and Ottawa. Ottawa have to be reduced. If Ontario, Alberta or B.C. wants more of power, why not? I would be proud of this. But they don't. so Quebec want to separate the filiation with Ottawa and the queen and re-negociate a better deal. Am I not comprehensible?

Commercial deels who benefits every parts will be protected. I think that you read too much quebec-basher journals for making your opinion. the political and economical reality is more subtil. You just seem to have frustration about us, and so, I let it be. I'm not here for the confrontation.

Who talk's about a rift and yougoslavia???

peace

 

not really. Firstly, Alberta isn't the province wanting to separate from Canada. Secondly, Canada's capitol happens to be Ottawa. If it were Toronto, then such issue would be between Quebec and Toronto. Quebec's actual problem is with THE REST OF CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, which happens to be mainly focused on Ottawa.

comprehensible?

 

umm check your taxation facts there dude,
its a sad thing that the bloc publishes such crap to its own constituants....

hey man I feel ya on the environmental issue in alberta and I agree with you on that one...

but nice way to tryu to pass the issue, typical french shit!!!

your province has no self reliant economy, if it did bombardier would be out of business ten years ago as well as half the other big corporations french owned.

its always the same arguement , you have NOTHING by yourself, never did....
you want to re negotiate?
what the hell more can quebec bring to the table?
your not a nation, your an anoying subculture we use for tourists
and you want a better deal then what you have already....
your better off then the rest of canada already your province is greedy...at the cost of the rest of canada,

quebec has brought more costs to the country then you have ever contributed,
always bitching because you want more,
power????
you dont deserve any, maybe add something more than an annoying bastardized language to the table and then maybe you could even think about re negotiating......

what the hell is there to negotiate???

TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES LIKE THE REST OF THE COUNTRYT HAS TOO!!!

YOUR NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PROVINCE!!!!!

so stop acting like you have some reason to be superior.....

 

Yeah, because its not like the rest of Canada doesn't have a history of oppressing the French.

 

when talking about canadas history of oppression..at least the french got the soft end of the stick...

 

um, when?

 

ooh c'mon, that's harsh man...

 

Does anyone have any insights if any Quebecois are emmigrating out of The Provience to France or Visa Versa.

just curious ?

For the first time, Irish are leaving New York and emmigrating to Ireland.
There was a job fair in Manhattan for Irish jobs. I know somebody
leaving to work in Dublin.

 

sorry wax, told ya in my first post to this thread I didnt mean to piss you off.....

 

Going back far? The original Dominion of Canada (circa the 1840s) was designed to encourage the development of Canada East over West. For example, with it came and equal number of house seats between the two provinces (despite the fact that Canada West had a lower population. However, in the 1850s, when it finally eclipsed Canada East they switched to rep. by pop.) You can even further look at GB policies designed specifically to eradicate the Quebecois culture (ie: the installed mandatory Protestant schools in much of what is now Quebec). Or the brutal way GB put down the 1830 Quebec Riots compared to similar ones occuring in what is now Ontario.

The only reason we have a federal state right now is because Quebec feared for its rights - John. A. McDonald and the rest of Canada were pushing for a unitary state.

In WWI and WWII, the Quebecois were conscripted into an English war - one that was essentially none of their doing (there was little desire to fight for France because of the lingering (and legitimate) feelings of abandonment).

More recently, looked at the way Ottawa treated Quebec under the War Measures Act during the FLQ Crisis. Or the barely legal repatriation of the Constitution w/out Quebec's signature on it. The Clarity act. etc. etc.

 

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pls expl the FLQ crisis ?

 

I suppose it's a matter of opinion, I don't really see that as English Canada attacking French Canada, sorry, although I do get where you're coming from.

As far as the opinion of France's 'abandonment' of Quebec... From France's perspective, Quebec's having to ask for support for their cause is, in their opinion, a joke, hence not wanting to be associated with it.

Again, IF the Quebec gov't or seperatists or whomever came up with a VALID AND WORKING plan to become their own country, (which anyone has yet to see, although I'm sure isn't impossible to do with a fibre of effort) then Quebec will get the support to separate.

Anything short of that is just a bunch of whining on Quebec's part. The rest of Canada's (or France's, etc) reaction to such whining will of course be negative. In order to avoid it, COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN or quit your bitching.

Whining and throwing a tantrum every time the issue of separation comes up and is lost isn't the right way to do anything, nor is it a good way to gain a fibre of credibility.

 

Voltaire had refered to Canada as a few acres of frozen snow.
The Colony was ceded in 1763.

 

A lot of people refer to Canada as a few acres of frozen snow. Big whoop. I'm not going to cry about every country who has this misconception.