Pulling Out Cancer

It's a well known fact that when a hole (biopsy) is poked into cancers the cells spread. This is comman knowledge Gate68. If your going to run me down at least get your facts straight. And sad it is. Goodbye gate68. Have a nice life.

 

...and the parasite?

 

This thread is CLOSED!!

 

Mary... I saw that you closed this thread but I thought I would post this as it seems some think you're just looney and making up treatments as you merrily go along.


Now some of my friends on the forums know that I am a rather natural kind a gal, and while I may treat myself with herbal remedies I also believe that we are responsible for finding out the facts and then making an informed decision regarding our lives, diets, health, environment etc.

There are documented cases of alternative treatments being highly successful.

I do believe that if your arm is cut off you better get yer ass to the ER ASAP!!
If you're having a baby...a midwife is preferable to me than a hospital...
But for numerous ailments, herbal medicine is worth giving a thought to.

Now here is a bit of history of cancer salves.....

History of Herbal Treatment for Cancer

External Treatment for Cancer

The external treatment of cancer with escharotic salves actually seeks out and destroys cancer cells. Escharotic pastes and salves are caustic compounds that are applied externally on the skin. These are directly applied over the affected area and will erode the tissue to eventually destroy and remove the underlying tumor.

The direct application of herbs and herbal juices to tumors has been practiced in many different traditions and cultures far back into antiquity. It is known that the Native Americans commonly applied poultices of roasted onions and bloodroot as well as other substances, which eroded the skin to draw out cancers, tumors and other undesirable materials. Straight garlic poultice will also cause blistering and open the skin but, like onions, it is very painful. These formulas were admired and used by medical doctors during the 18th century in Europe.

Other examples of topical application of herbs and their expressed juice are the use of chelidonium or dandelion latex to remove warts and other excrescences. The Chinese have a tradition of breaking open the seed of brucea javonica and taping directly over warts and excrescences to stimulate their dissolution. The treatment of breast cancer particularly through the use of dandelion latex was described as a folk remedy by the Chinese.

Japanese macrobiotics uses a grated poultice of the taro potato (Colocasia esculenta) which grows in tropical, hot countries. The Africans call this plant taro, in India it is called albi, in Japan it is sato-imo ("field-potato"), in the Caribbean's it is malanga or yautia. It is a staple food of the Native Hawaiians who make a porridge called poi which is a staple of the traditional Hawaiian diet..

In the mid nineteenth century, Samuel Thompson, a leader of one of the most popular movements of natural healing based primarily on the use of Native American herbs, reported the successful treatment of breast cancer. This was done by using a paste of thickened decoction of red clover blossoms. It was repeatedly and thickly applied to the woman's breast and covered over with a protective bandage. After a short time the cancer literally sloughed off through the surface of the skin, leaving a shallow crater. It is presumed that if this case is at all similar to dozens that I have seen or heard of, that this healed over without any complications.

Meanwhile and previously in Europe from the middle of the 18th century to the mid-nineteenth century one of the ways of treating cancer was by applying zinc chloride directly to tumors until they died and fell off. This was obviously a painful process. Around the mid-nineteenth century, Native American herbs became very popular in Europe and a Dr. J.W. Fell, working at Middlesex Hospital in London developed a paste made of bloodroot, zinc chloride, flour, and water. This was directly applied as a paste to a malignant growth and generally destroyed the tumor within two to four weeks.

Bloodroot (Sanguinarea canadensis) is one of the most beautiful eastern North American woodland herbs and was commonly used to treat cancer by the Native Americans. Since that time it has been identified as a primary ingredient in most escharotic salves and pastes, as these are called, used for the treatment of cancer. The alkaloid, sanguinarine has been indeed found to possess powerful anti-cancer properties.

The Eclectics medical doctors of the 19th century, especially Dr. Eli Jones, specialized in the treatment of cancer emphasizing internal treatment and lifestyle changes but evidently used escharotic salves and ointments with success. The late Dr. Raymond Christopher created a Black Ointment drawing salve that contained potent anti-cancer herbs such as poke root and black walnut bark. Many consider this to be only for drawing out slivers and such embedded in the flesh, but in fact, the salve is also used for drawing out cancers and tumors. In recent times various formulas for the salve has been sold or given away by various clandestine individuals who are mostly motivated by the desire to help provide patients with a less invasive and harmful method to remove cancers from various parts of the body.

One of the most startling facts is that the use of escharotics has been and continues to be an accepted and recognized medical procedure. A medical text entitled Chemosurgery: Microscopically controlled Surgery for Skin Cancer was written by Dr. Frederic E. Mohs, B.Sc., M.D. and last published by Charles Thomas in 1978. It uses the same basic escharotic paste used by Eli Jones, Hoxsey, and others for application for topical application for the removal of various cancers, molls, warts and other growths and excrescences. Dr. Mohs was clinical Professor of Surgery at the University of Wisconsin Medical School

As recently as the late 1960's Vipont pharmaceuticals under the name of Vipont Chemical Co. of Fort Collins, Colorado, was formed by a rodeo cowboy named Howard McCrorey and two friends specifically to research and develop the salve for FDA approval. At one point they informally sent it off to an investigator of Mayo clinic to be tested for its efficacy in treating cancer. The investigator sent back two letters stating he had not tested anything that even came close to the anti-tumor activity of the salve.

In order to keep the company viable they performed various contract work. As a result they brought a toothpaste to market called Viadent which utilized the ingredients of their salve to maintain dental hygiene and prevent and cure periodontal disease. It was and still is very effective and the company was eventually bought up by Colgate who is the manufacturer of Viadent.

The Escharotic Black Salve researched by Vipont is the basic one that is usually found. It consists of Equal parts powdered bloodroot, galangal, zinc chloride and distilled water. Other versions of this add white flour to make more of a paste consistency.

Besides its topical use, there is a tradition of internal use for cancer and all infectious and inflammatory diseases. Vipont conducted an LD/50 toxicity study of the salve for internal use. It was reported that the LD/50 was around 700mg per kilogram of body weight. Since the recommended dose for internal use is no greater than 250mg, at this level toxicity is very low. However, it should never be taken on an empty stomach as it can be too irritating. The salve can be taken in a 00-sized gelatin capsule as it is taken each day.


Now then, please respect the fact that all adults should be able to make their choices, even making some that others would never choose for themselves.

The way I choose to live my life out here in the woods may seem down right whacky to a tremendous amount of others, but it is the right way for me....

teepi


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Here is a bit about the parasites....the center for disease control is at this time also doing studies on parasites being linked to the main cause of cancers in and on the body.


“The Miami Herald” dateline June 25, 1978 (just 23 years ago!) an article appeared titled “Worms Outrank Cancer as Man's Deadliest Enemy”. It reads:
“One of every four people in the world is infected with roundworms, which cause fever, cough and intestinal problems. A quarter of the worlds people have hookworms, which can cause anemia and abdominal pain. Another third of a billion people suffer from abdominal pain and diarrhea caused by whipworms.”



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Not much research is being done on these diseases (i.e. parasite related diseases). The U.S. spends more than $US800 million a year on cancer research. All the nations in the world combined spend less than one twentieth that amount studying parasitic diseases. Of the amount of money spent on Cancer research, one thing is agreed upon - that toxins and poisons in the body cause chronic irritation of tissues which results in cancer. There is also plenty of other evidence that cancer of internal structures such as organs or other tissues is caused by chronic irritation of the cells by toxins in the body. Almost all the books written by (so called) “quacks” claim that cancer can be cured by cleansing the body and ridding it of parasites and toxins. In other words, once the tissues stop being irritated by excessive quantities of toxins in the blood, the cancer not only stops proliferating, but may actually disappear altogether if the treatment is started in time. (Note that only the medical profession attempts to treat cancer by introducing more toxic drugs to the body.)
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So friends, I say again, it is important that we do research ourselves to develop a treatement plan..

There are many at this time who believe that parasites are the cause of cancers.
That by having parasites and toxins such as benzine and isopropyl alchol in the body cancer will develop.

There are many articles on cancer being linked to parasites, and many studies underway.
The thoughts of cancer being caused by smoking , diet, hereditary...are being reconsidered as studies show that not ALL fat people, smokers or children of cancer victims develop the disease.

So...Mary I thank you for providing the knowledge that you do have, and I thank all who question, because if no one questioned anything...where in the hell would we be???
teepi
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shameless,
Listen I have had my own family heartache also. My father had 3 heart attacks. The first 2 he was saved by modern medicine (angioplasty) The last one he died in the woods alone. My mother died from lung cancer 2 years after my father. She didnt want any treatment, all she wanted was to be with my dad. Its because of my parents that I am who and what I am today. I would have never went to nursing school if it wasnt for there illnesses. I wanted to learn more and educate people about there disease, illness or whatever. So u see u went one way with your family heartaches and I went mine. Either way all we want to do is help people right. Yes the drug companies are in it for the money. I agree, but Im sure somewhere down the road u or someone u know gave herbs that were harmful to someone not realizing it could be harmful to that person. Also some of those meds u named earlier were helpful to many people, so u gotta take the good with the bad. Thats all im saying in this thread. I wont fight about this subject anymore. I am proud of who and what I am. Just as u are of who you are. Everytime someone says something negative about the medical profession it makes me feel like shit, like Im not appreciated. So thats it Im done. Im sure we could have pleasant chats about other topics.

 

teepi 'all interesting reads and i thank you for bringing them to my attention.However can you ascertain that these are the most effective treatments and do you have the expertise in treating cancer to really truly know.What we do to our own bodies and lives is nobodys business,but when you practice on others it's totally different.There are people that do nothing but cancer research.These are the ones we should trust,not rodeo cowboys.

 

Teepi,
Thank you so very much for posting the parasite information. I do grow weary from having to explain myself 24/7. Most people will think twice now about the invaders we host in our bodies. Perhaps bringing the subject out into the light will promt ones to investigate what really is causing their distress.

I am however closing this thread. It has be dragged WAY off topic and has become a battle field. That's not why I started this thread. It was to bring hope and show ones that there are other means of healing without horrible side effects and dangers of death.
I know of no Herb that has Killed anyone. I think I would have been told by my teachers over the last 35 yrs if there were killer herbs on the market and to avoid them. Or even the Media would have had a field day with it. Ohh and did you hear on the news that the pharmcos are going to ban herbs from the market so that they will have exclusive rights to manufacture 'herbs' and you will only be able to get them by prescription from your doctor. Now if that doesn't open your eyes and tell you it all for the MONEY then nothing ever will.
People act like there is no research being done on herbs and their properties. Like we are all a bunch of idiots picking weeds and giving them to people without knowing what does what.
Herbs are FOOD and we get nutrition from them. That is what heals us, is the proper nutrition to make our bodies strong. You must eat alot of crap gate, as we are what we eat.!!

It's funny that you see me as a rodeo cowboy.lol. I am no more a cowboy then you are a hippie gate68.

 

didn't call you a cowboy.i'm not downing herbs.i'm downing false practitioners who think they know something thus putting other peoples lives in jeopardy.Did you cure your friend?No, the cancer ended up spreading.Of course you blamed that on the doctors too.

 

A short message to Teepi & Shameless:

You can not show the light to one who will not see.

And Mary, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone.

Got to go, I've got work to do out in my herb garden.

Love to both of you.

Peace,
poor_old_dad

 

OK OK Mary ..you closed the thread twice so these will be my parting words.
POD...Hi Sweetie, we will PM soon as I found my contact cement and have reglued the thing I made, I used hot glue before and it came apart.
So now its ready again.

Gate, I know you from other threads and I like whan you play devils advocate, as I said we need to question and we need to call each other out when necessary.
I posted what I did to show that Mary is not alone in what she believes and Pride is an adult and free to make the choices he has.
Doctors kill people all the time, they misdiagnose all the time, prescription meds kill and heal. I am a pharmacy tech, and also worked in a drug store that sold alot of herbal supplements.
St. Johns wort has made the biggest difference in my life than any anti-depressent drug I've come across.
I did my research and made the choice to try it and it worked.
It is not for everyone but I am all for a more natural less invasive approach if possible.

Pride may be dead by now if he had gone the more accepted way of the medical world. He may be healed by now if he had gone that way.
We don't know, but I do know that the body is a miraculus invention and that we also are affected by our faith, our faith in ourselves and our own healing properties and by our faith in others.
Pride is responsible for his choices and Not I or anyone should belittle those choices.

Now, I need to go out and tend to my herb garden, the Bee Balm and Echinacia are TAKING OVER!!!!!!

Sons a Bithces Ain't taking my herbs away from me!!!!

LOve to all of you, my friends,
teepi

PS. I will respect Mary and not post here again.
If anyone wants to respond, start a new thread please.