Pulling Out Cancer

awww.....well thank you, for both the kind words and for being you.....

 

Shameless,

I just found this thread now, after "accidentally" clicking on the Old Hippies community. I just wanted to say that I found this whole thread very enlightening and very inspiring. Thank you for sharing your gifts with all of us - and thank Pride and Angel for sharing something so personal. Do you have any pictures of them??

 

Update On Pride...
We've had a battle of it y'all.
I have been waiting for good news.
When Pride first was diagnosed with bladder cancer they did a biopsy, yes, and when they did they punched a hole in his bladder and the cancer leaked out.
We had been addressing his bladder with the black salve. When he no longer tested for the salve we assummed the cancer had been healed. Well it wasnt. There was one cancer mass we didn't get that had leaked out behind his bladder.. Pride stopped the treatment too soon and then waited two months to have another sonagram.
I wasnt sure as sure as Pride was that the cancer was gone and I urged him to continue with the herbs and juices and to get a sonagram.
AS we all know that when we are unable to work the bills start piling in and there's no food on the table.
Pride's employer took matters in his own hands and started procedures to get Pride on dissability. With the state involved Pride was cohorst in to going into a program to detremine the extent of his disability. They decided that Pride needed surgery.
After the determination, Pride went downhill. His weight dropped down to 109 from 190. He no longer had any will to live. The cancer had grown from the biopsy and his bladder was now to be removed.
Pride had the surgery and they took his bladder out. He is doing chemo treatments and his hair and teeth are falling out.
The thing that distresses me is that the doctors said that the herbs,oils and juices saved Prides life but they advised him to stop taking them if he wanted to get his disability as the state does not reconise this type of treatment and would not pay for herbs and the likes. AS we all know herbs can be expensive and with no money comming in he could not afford to contenue the program, BUT the state would pay for the surgery and the meds if he stopped the herbal treatments.
Pride had the surgery in Feb. He was not doing well at all. Pride contenued to lose weight and he wasnt responding to the "treatments'(chemo). The chemo was making him sick and he was loosing more weight.
I finely convinced him to drink Parsely Water for the sickness. as it was food and would not show up as an herb in his system. The parsely water did work on the sickness and Pride is starting to gain weight now at the rate of 3 pounds a week.
I didn't want to give an update till I knew what to say. I didn't know if Pride was going to make it and I waited till I could write this with some good news.
Pride is n the road to recovery now. He and Angel came to see me last week and he was driving the truck. I havent seen Pride drive in over a year. Bless his Heart.
I believe that all the love that came from this site and the encouragment that you all gave Pride did help him servive. He told me so. With such a massave support system and all the prayers how could it be otherwise. Pride will never forget what was done in his name here. He would have given up. Pride wanted me to send you all a huge hug and his best regards to you all.
I don't know what the outcome would have been if Pride had contenued on the herbal treatment. It was working. But the Gov. stepped in and took over. They got us by the balls, if we want their help we have to play by their rules. WE are no longer in charge of our own bodies. We are not allowed to make our own choices about our own health. I can only see this getting worse as we are forced to comply with the threat of no disability compensation if we do not comply.
I pray that we be release from this trap that was set for us.
Bless all of you that has hung in with us.
SH

 

Love and Light your way to you and yours shameless~*

 

Blessed Be the Creator's light to you and yours, Mary.

 

Sending many blessings to you and your family, Shameless...you all have been through a lot, and are all incredibley strong. Thank you for sharing all of this with us, and allowing us to be a part of this time in your lives.

 

Thank You ALL for your greatly apperciated support. Love is the strongest medicine there is. Blessed Be.

 

i read this entire thread. I am a nurse so i deal with the medical aspect. I learned alot about herbal medicine. I think if the medical and herbal elements are combined you could have great success. I know chemo is bad for u, but it works for some people just like herbs work for some. My hospital is starting a program to use holistic forms of treatment. we will see what happens.

 

Welcome Blond Girl,
Glad you stopped by. It's always refreshing to hear that the medical profession is waking up to smell the Herbs. Being that medicine is synthetic herbs. You'd be surprized at how many meds are based on herbals.

 

thankfully he got to a real doctor.You shouldn't play with peoples lives like that.

 

You know Gate, you should mind your own bizness and stop following me around trying to upset me. I am here to show my love. Why are you here. I do not PLAY, I am serious as I can be. Pride came to me for help, I did not hunt him down and force anything down his throat, it was his choice to make. I help him with my whole being. I went to his home. I payed for his juices and I supplied him with the tools/devises to heal himself. I asked nothing from him and gave him my all, the best I had to offer. Would an MD do that, Hell No, and you judge me. (shaking head in disbelief of the ignorance of some humans).
And By THE WAY. Pride has instructed me to give this message to 'ones' like you.
He would have died without the herbs,juices, vitamins and LOVE LOVE LOVE that was given freely.. the docs told him so and he is alive to tell it today. From the very first juiced drink I made for him he felt revitialized and started to improve immedately, you know nothing about it, you just trying to cause trouble with me as you have in the past. You need to get a real life and leave mine alone. I am happy and healthy and I have friends and loved ones in abundance. You or your prattle will change nothing in my exsistance, your only creating bad karma for yourself.
A mild warnning to you Gate, Get off my donkey or I'll report you for harrassment. I do not go into your forums/threads and say insulting things to you .. ohh I see no one goes into your threads and responds to you. That right there says more then I can.
This is the LAST response you'll get from me. Next step is to contact Skip and Company. If you post another remark in my thread I'll have it deleted.
Sincerly
shameless_heifer

 

If these remidies worked more doctors would be pushing them.Despite their greed,doctors are actually here to help.Their problem is more complacency then conspiricy.What you did only prolonged Pride's agony and gave the cancer a chance to spread.Now back off your high horse,bring your ego down a bit and realize this thread is not about you,it's about healing.Yes it's about love first,a very important aspect to medicine,but if a black salve could simply extract cancer,unless you're keeping it secret,it would be well documented and in widespread use.It is not only false science it is also dangerous.

 

What is your problem?

And what is your medical degree in that lets you pontificate on what works and what doesn't? There are a lot of old, time-honored remedies that aren't practiced by moderm medicine simply because the drug companies and insurance companies don't want them practiced. It's a way of limiting options that they provide you. There are also a lot of state-of-the-art remedies and procedures that aren't practiced because the insurance companies don't want to pay for them. A friend of mine has a rare form of skin cancer. Modern medicine had no help. He consulted a chinese herbalogist, followed the prescribed treatment, and is now in remission - for ten years. You sound like you share the typical western's prejudice for any medical treatment not practiced at Johns-Hopkins and authorized by United Health Care. What did man do before western medicine? My, my.

You have never posted in this thread which is many months old. I have seen your posts in another thread, battling with shameless_heifer and tundrahopper4. Your only obvious purpose in posting here now is to dog shameless. I believe you are coming dangerously close to trolling, a site violation. I suggest you leave this thread now.

 

...and your degree making you an expert on the insurance and drug companies?I'm not here to do battle.The point is i strongly disagree with someone who has only street knowlege of medicine practicing medicine.It brings to mind the old back alley abortion clinics or the illegals who die here every year because they went to some "nurse practioner"who worked out of their garage.All drugs at some point came from nature and herbal tradition.Exploring the old ways and the practice of different cultures is how our medical field has advanced.There are also many charities that push for and fund these advances.Yes i have fought with shameless and tundra in the past.So what?We disagreed.I have since had pleasent conversations with Tundra on other topics.None of that has anything to do with this.This has to do with practicing medicine without knowing WTF you're doing.It's hard enough to find a good doctor as it is.

 

I'd say that Shameless knows WTF she's doing. Thank you, Luvndrumn..I sat and thought about what to say, but you summed it up. Back alley abortion clinics? You're being a little over dramatic, wouldn't u say? Nothing works without faith, my friend. Nothing. Quit being such a grumpy ass all the time. You don't know these people, nor do you know anything about her knowledge of herbal medicine, so you really shouldn't have an opinion on that matter. Why would you intentionally come here to hurt her feelings?? She's a damn good woman, and has helped me countless times just with her uplifting words alone. She has nothing to prove to you.

 

OKAY ace, how do you know whether or not shameless knows what she's doing with the herbs? It isn't like any school is offering a degree. There is such a thing as lore. And I think the posting history has everything to do with the posts you have made in this thread.

I don't need a degree to see the obvious in the day-to-day of my life's experiences.

 

If i hurt anybodys feelings by critisizing voodoo medicine it was not intentional.Why aren't schools offering degrees?Actually they do.Many a medical thesis has been done on herbal medicine and what works and what doesn't.No,i haven't read them,but i doubt if your local herboligist has either.For that matter very few doctors.The whole truth is you have to ignore the quackery and weed through the trained doctors until you find a good one.

 

To claify.. When I started into the world of Natural Healing,I mean really doing serious studies, I was 16 yrs old. I studied under Edgar Cayce's tradition. I later started developing my own products from Cayce's notes. Mostly cosmetics. I was a student of life and I drank in all life had to offer. I learned as much as I could from everywhere I could. At that time there were no schools of herbal medicine.
When my daughter was born with CF, I studed even harder trying to find a cure for her. I traveled all over the united states trying to find answers. I found some. I found a different approach, Herbs. They told me Amy would not live past three yrs old, but with the herbals she lived to be 25 and had two children, which the docs said was impossible.
Iv'e been trained in Herbs by Nature's Sunshine, who are extreamly knowledgable and are know world round. I studied Herbology under Hanna Kroger in Boulder Co. I studied Iridology under Banard Jensen. Ruby Lawyer was my teacher in Tyler Tx. Ruby owns a healing clinic in Tyler and has been in practise for almost fourty yrs at the same location. She is a ND and has clients from all over the world. After I got my schooling, Ruby hired me to work in the clinic with her. Out of hundreds of students Ruby chose me. I worked with clients for several yrs and then opened my shop here in my town.
I hold five certificates in Nature Healing Methods and held a licence in Nutrition.
I HAVE NEVER claimed to be a doctor, wouldn't want to tarnish my name. Six yrs ago I was inrolled in a school to become an ND but my daughters illness prohibited my attendance.
When Amy died, I stopped living my life and went inside and didn't come out for four yrs. I was called out of my in-world to come out and Heal, not just the ones that were needing help but for myself also. When I came back, I came back with a new dedication. A will so strong I could only flow with it. It is my Calling to heal. I can't not heal. It has always been so. I will not denigh my calling.
I ask nothing for the gifts of LOVE LOVE LOVE, Light and Understanding I bring to share. I don't take my calling lightly. I take it to heart, I deal with peoples hopes, fears and dreams of health. I help the ones I can. I do it out of love. You don't have to agree with me. But you don't have to knowledge to compare with what knowledge I have gatherd on Holistic Healing.
I'm not here to argue about the pros and cons of it all, I don't have the time and it is a energy ripoff to try to have a rational conversation with a jackass.
I here for the ones that want help with finding something that will help them when the doctors FAIL. I cant tell you how many people came to the clinic that the docs had sent home to die. They were put on an herbal program and are still walking around living. Imagain that.
Gate I don't care what you think about me personaly, but your a grown adult and your acting like a spoiled child. If all you have to do is hang out in these forums and cause trouble, you need to re-evualate your intentions. Dogging me is not harming me or hurting me in any way except to aggeravate me, like a misquito or a tick that won't let go. The only ones that can hurt me is the ones I love, that are close enough to hurt my heart, you do not fall in these lines. I have given you fair warning. I have acted like an adult in this matter. I will not haggle with you like a child.

I do thank my friends for coming to my defence. Bless you my sweet darlins. I do LOVE LOVE LOVE YOU.

Gate if I can help you overcome your mental block let me know. I will pray for you in the meantime.
Blessed Be.
SH

PS Black Salve has been used world wide for hundreds of yrs. The USA is the only country that does not approve of natural healing because if we could heal ourselves then they'd be out of a JOB. And that is all it is to them is a fricken JOB. Healers heal because thay love. Most healers I know give freely to those who can't pay, NO doc I know gives free.

 

Why the name calling?Where's the LOVE,LOVE,LOVE?You call me a jackass,I'll call you a fraud.The ones you learned from were frauds.Cancer for one does not leak through holes in the body.
Many a doctor gives it away.Yes it is about the money,but these are not evil people,they too have love and compassion.They too are human.
Once again this post is not about you.