Psychedelic Bump

if he mixed up my mipt and dipt bags that would make sense because im getting basically almost zilch from this. i just had a cannabis break and im still just REALLY high but from the pot + something mysterious i cant put my finger on. just weak and subtle. and some weird visual stuff. i see why some described this one as "alien". it doesnt feel like its a part of you, it feels like something that's draped over you for a while. it's just very odd, but i must try a higher dose to be sure.

however, i did 20mg 2c-t-7 on friday, and got practically zilch as well, and the next day i did ~10mg 2c-p and it was very very mild, like i felt like i could have done 20mg. (I won't.)

so i wonder if this is all a pattern, symptomatic of something? Am I becoming hard headed? I get all the "peripheral" effects from these substances suddenly, but the core experience is missing; i remain quite sober relatively. Perhaps a systemic tolerance to mind psychedelization

 

Just took 250mg of Mephedrone about 20min ago!!! ... Oral route.. Feeling abit speedy right now, but don't want to get off the chair! Jaws are clenchin real bad, Heart rate is super high. Not sure how fast bust doesn't feel to bad. Body is releaxed and fluid.

 

i've only taken the dipt once from said source but to me it did not seem cut. it was a 3-4 hour experience peaking within 45 with mild tremors. i have even had 4-acodipt and it was noticably different than the 4ho ester. perhaps you did not feel much because the vendor is offering the fumurate and not the HCL and you didn't dose high enough for desired effects? i know when i dosed i ate 23 mg and had a mild +2 almost to 3. i'm not saying it isn't cut or anything because i don't have equiptment to test that, but i just don't think its cut with 4acodipt if it is cut. i do agree that 4hodipt does feel very alien though. it just didn't feel too natural or like it wasn't how you should feel(not that it felt bad though). like i said though i only dosed it once so far so your YMMV

 

have you noticed a sound shift?

 

no but i only took it once and it was while i was watching heavy metal with some friends. there is a lot of music in heavy metal and we were talking in between scenes, but I didn't notice any pitch difference. although, at the time I wasn't really expecting/anticipating any auditory effects so that may be part of it. I will definately be paying more attention though9 on my next 4hodipt experience.

 

DAMNIT!!!!! I NEED SOME MONEY!!!!! All you guys are trying the 4-ho-dipt and the 4-ho-mipt and I still have not got my hands on any 4-aco-dmt and god I want it soooooo bad, hopefully I will be able to order some next month. Oh well, I will be taking it a step FURTHUR with my girl Lucy on Monday

 

That's sweet

the dipt is HCL unless he is mistaken, which happens. 20mg is supposed to be a visionary journey for some, i was at a WEAK ++. same with 20mg 2ct7, WEAK ++, and 10mg 2cp, moderate ++.

weird! Now, I did take them one a day one day after the other, so its possible that my friday test gave me some tolerance to saturday, which gave me more tolerance to sunday . . . i dunno. ill try the mipt this week, take a few days off to clear out the ol' receptors.

 

sounds like a good plan. let me which one if either causes a sound shift for you as i'm highly confused.

 

didn't get that, got almost no effects really. some sedation and confusion. weird stuff.

 

writer, it's probably tolerance i'm guessing. 20 mg 2ct7 can be hit or miss (from what i've read). but it's still enough to give you cross tolerance for another 2cx the next day. and after two consecutive days of hitting your receptors with PEAs, i don't think it's unreasonable to assume that you could have had some cross tolerance with a tryptamine. they work on the same receptors after all, and your body will downregulate those after a trip, and IN THE LONG RUN. that last part is what you were hinting at, and it's a bummer if that's the case.
i think i've experienced some of this long term tolerance myself.

me neither. i'd really love to try 4acodmt and maybe miprocin.

 

you got it pork, thats what i suspected but wasnt sure. which is why this fourth day in a row i have taken 30mg 4-ho-mipt. a strong ++. haha... we will return to your regularly scheduled mr writer after this short break D:

 

i'm not too familiar with rating my trips by the shulgin scale, but sitting here looking at it, it seems that i rarely reach even a plus three. i agree before it's stated, that this is dose related. i'm sure i could take a massive dose and reach a +++, but i think i'm only getting a strong ++ from the same doses that i used to get strong +++ from.
lately i've been tripping in situations were it's good to be able to hide it for part of the experience, so a ++ is fitting. but it'd feel nice to have a good strong trip where i am "totally engaged in the experience, for better or worse." i don't think that's happened for awhile.

 

that's exactly it man, a conscious override to remain in control vis a vis the mundane world

 

4-ho-mipt?

 

psilocybin analogue

 

I had 5-MeO-DET before as a free sample with other RC's. I don't know why they'd even bother synthesizing this shit let alone risk selling it and offering samples. Needless to say I threw it out without trying it when I was paranoid on amphetamines one day, seeing as there's speculation that you can seize on doses past 2-3mg (maybe?) and the fact that I eyeball doses doesn't help. I'd really like to hear from someone who actually bothered to try this, and maybe they even went hero for the 15mg doses (it either works and makes you trip or you seize violently and die according to current research, lol).. hmm.

 

Yeah, you too.

 

Are you talking about a toggle switch intoxication or is it a matter of dosage?

 

Not sure what toggle switch intoxication exactly means, but basically based on PiHKAL's report (seeing as it's the only one the net that I think is legit), it's believed to be a highly visually active chemical (around 10-15mg), however severe negative side effects start as early as 2-3mg, so it's unknown whether somebody body could actually manage that dose due to the potential of neurotoxicity in higher doses. I'm personally still curious if anyone ever went any where with this chemical, and came back to tell about it.

 

Toggle switch intoxication is experienced with aminita muscaria. A single individual has a psychedelic trip on one occasion and then on the next be beset by spasms and convulsions. You never know which one you'll get.