Psychedelic Bump XXXIV

I try to not come off as a know it all but peoples stupidity brings out the worst of me.

 

^ I just get dat eye twitch... Hah

So around 65-75mg of Allylescaline & Proscaline all together done in gradual doses resulted in quite a mellow, psychedelic experience. No nausea from 4 people who took it that night, but I felt like I might puke a couple times. The fireworks for Victoria day were great, and each one left a trail in my memory and my visuals the rest of the night. The sea of people gathered to watch them seemed like mannequins, then each burst of light would bring them back to life again! My buddy led me home because I had this spaced out feeling, and the lights all around were consuming my attention! He, his dad and I also played around with Roman candles, fountains, and some crazy ones that burst into the air that we were uncomfortably close to (didn't expect them to be so powerful!) at his house afterwards. This "goldfish" one was impressive and left some twinkles in the air and a puff of smoke that made a majestic "fish" that floated away in the middle with them. All of those added into the memorable giant ones I had just seen.

The trip only got stronger later, and I started to get funny tremors like on a bit too much M. My friend's room is upstairs in an old house, so there's lots of skylights and windows everywhere, and slanted ceilings. The wood on the tables and my surroundings were swimming at its strongest point. My friend was burnt out, but he said hed stay up and talk about what we can do with our lives to be better, he was feeling in that self improvement mood. He also noticed I was a little uneasy cause I was getting extreme closed eye visuals when triyng to sleep. We bonded and talked for at least a couple more hours before eventually deciding to try to sleep again. It was the cheesiest CGI scene. Bright, warm coloured disco is the only thing I could describe it as, and there were snake-like patterns, star shapes and peace sings intertwined with each other and floating out to me in 3D then combining with my head. The music playing was really funky and bassy with pop chords and solos and high pitched vocals of all sorts. It got a little ridiculous once all the sounds of outside and the television on the floor below added with it, in tune. The only thing anchoring me to reality was the rug's texture I held onto. I could bring myself back to the room (even with my eyes closed) if I felt the texture. The visions were a little mescaline like, but way more obvious and in your face, if that makes any sense. They were also not symmetrical, they just had their own flow like everything was its own fish bowl. I'm not sure if I drifted into my subconscious without sleeping because I felt bright and pleasant the next day, but extraordinarily cheesed. Similar to a hangover without the ill feeling. It does much more a number on the mind and body than I remembered my cacti trip to be, but nothing else to speak of really. Enjoyable, may try again, but probably will never dose higher.

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/DrugNerds/comments/262boo/update_with_toxicology_report_another_nbome/

apparently this redditor was my gfs friend. Very sad how this keeps happening.

 

i think sometimes ppl get pills that do have a little meth or other stimulant in them and call those speed based, then they get some really smacky pills with a bunch of mdma and no speed and think those must be heroin based but thats not gonna happen cuz heroin is an expensive drug plus taking heroin orally isnt that effective.

ive heard of "acid based" and mescaline based pills too, most of the time these are just trippy pills that maybe MDA, or some type of piperazine or research chemical.

some people say that the different colored specks in their pills are different drugs but this is really just a little left over colored powder in the pill press from the last batch of pills they made of a differnt color i think

 

This kind of shit makes me so angry, because the right changes to public policy could prevent a lot of these deaths (probably the vast majority of them) from happening. If you could get LSD at a pharmacy (where the pharmacist checked for interactions with any prescription meds you're taking), a lot less people would be willing to ingest possibly unknown, little-researched drugs of unknown doses. Such a tragedy.

We need to stop policing morality and base policy around harm reduction in all aspects of our lives.

 

word .. they try to come up with made up risks and dangers and lie to us, and everyone knows it then ppl dont take the real risks and dangers seriously.

 

And this is why I don't take "ecstasy" or "mollies" cause people like that ruin it.

 

I want to start an NGO that donates small plastic vials of reagent to schools in bulk so they can be handed out free in big bowls, just like condoms.

We would also have walk-in centres that would do on spot reagent testing and lab testing (small fee, but not for profit) with quick results, give out stuff like ipecac, charcaol and clean needles, and post up lists of the current blotters/pills and their contents.

I know there are organizations out there that do this sort of thing, but I think that it will never really make a difference until it is a relatively free and accessible service.

If we had one or two centres like this in every major city, the people pushing pretendamine and NBOMes would be sussed out so fast. Grassroots harm reduction and awareness like that would prevent so many deaths, plus it would be awesome because we'd be able to come up with serious databases and document the chemistry of the drug scene in every city.

I was talking about this goal of mine with my girlfriend the other day in public and we had a really funny experience because I said "none of this will work until I get my degree and Harper is out of power" and like two other random people heard that part of the conversation out of context and agreed that all their plans in life required the exact same two variables. I think that's what everyone in montreal wants: a degree, and an end to the reign of Harper.

 

Only ~38% of us voted for him, so I think that is probably fairly accurate. I also find that academics and students tend to be further left than Harper, other than those studying business and maybe economics to a degree. Fuck that guy, I'll even settle for Trudeau. At least he wants to make weed legal.

Harm reduction is key, an organization like the one you are proposing would be great.

 

if i wasn't getting my PhD soon, i'd be going to Montreal in June for a scientific conference.

 

Damn, read about that. Didn't think it was so close to home.


I think, while free drug testing and drug kits is a clear solution to the problem, it's also a good reminder that everyone experimenting with drugs should have basic first aid knowledge on hand.

I know it wouldn't have helped too much in this case, as everyone involved was on drugs and incapable of really acting, but it's a reminder of what can happen. And some immediate aid can mean the difference between life and death.

I wouldn't be reading your post now if it weren't for a sober person around, and some basic first aid.

 

needle exchanges are often rogue in the US because of the stigma attached. thus it is banned in many cities. many are often operating out of moving vans or people walking down the streets.

 

Very tragic story . . . how terrifying that they had previously sampled 3 hits from the same sheet and felt fine, but 2 hits caused a mortality. My friend went to an electronic music concert recently and said just under THIRTY people were hospitalized from drugs. She said the "molly" was being sold in 2g doses (two gram doses(!)) for 20$ . . . . wtf is that shit . . . . these dealers should be lined up against a wall.

 

the doses were probably unevenly laid, and that's the result.

 

that's absolutely terrible.

i have taken 25B-nbome and one time i took a bit too much and had tremors so bad i couldnt walk like i would have seriously hurt myself if i hadn't been in a safe place that shit just hit me all of a sudden I couldnt see or anything it was pretty scary

i threw the rest away because that experience scared me. the previous experiments were fairly fun but this was something else so i threw the rest away because i thought that it wasn't worth the risk. i guess that's what can happen when you're dealing with a compound so potent thats active in such tiny doses but obviously this stuff isn't safe like LSD. it certainly felt dangerous to me, and sadly this seems to be confirmed by the above link :/

 

too bad. You should probably just skip that whole PhD thing and come do some drugs in Montreal

true say.

on the other hand though, you should see the things that are being passed off as other things around here.
Of course if someone fucks up its important to be able to fix things up, but knowing what you're ingesting should be more of a priority.

That is the one reason research chemicals can be great. You're chances of having relatively pure drugs that are the right chemical are pretty good. The only thing that sucks about RCs is when they end up being misrepresented on the street. For those of us who actually use vendors directly, though, they are a great thing!

O man I read about that one last night. That sounds crazy. Those pills must've looked like horse suppositories!

I tried the 25i and I didn't like it anything like LSD, but it seemed relatively alright. I've heard a lot of good things about the i and the c, but maybe the methoxybenzyl substitution thing isn't so chill when it comes to 2c-b? I didn't know the 2c-b version was even for sale, but I haven't heard great things so far.

I'd take regular 2c-b over this stuff any day! It's funny that 2c-b is such a great 2c, but when you do the same modification to it as to the other 2c-X's it isn't as chill.

 

There you go man. Like old Waylon or Willie or someone sang, "You got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em." I think there's a tendency to hold on to things "just in case" or whatever. Good move to toss it.

 

Well, in this case though, they were aware that they were ingesting NBOMe. So a drug test wouldn't really be of much help. Unless, of course, they were sold something even more potent than NBOMe.. (Bromo-dragonfly?, although I doubt it).

Speaking of which, as some forumers here remember, there was a vendor a few years ago who got that impure 2C-B-FLY/Bromo-Dragonfly which ended up killing the vendor and a couple of others that had received their packages. I was considering ordering some of that - happy that I didn't, because that was my first real wake up call to the real dangers of the RC game.

But of course, most of the time, the drugs you get are relatively pure and what they are labelled to be. Seems like many vendors nowadays do their own chemical analysis as well.



Also, Writer, 2g molly pills?! Crazy stuff. That would be an immediate warning sign, if someone handed me a pill that big. Incredibly sad.

 

well NBOMes could be tested for if lab testing was more accessible. I don't think reagents would help though...

One thing I found really cool was that they had a billboard at a festival I went to this summer that said what was on most of the blotter that was going around. There were about 10 different known blotters (and a whole bunch of unknown) and there was like AL-LAD, LSH, LSZ, LSD and a couple NBOMes. They have a really sweet harm reduction program at Shambhala.

Unfortunately the stuff that was NBOMes (they were orange with a pinkf flower) were always being sold as LSD.

I tried some of that (it was 25i) and it was actually great. I tried one of the other analogues too.

One of the most awesome things that happened was when me an my buddy found close to a gram of really good cocaine on the ground, which we'd normally never touch. But we were able to bring it to the drug counter and test it with 3 different reagents on the spot and it was definitely mostly cocaine. Everyone high fived each other and jumped up in the air!!

yo CSoul . you go to anymore good raves lately?

 

Sounds awesome mang. I'd love to go to shambahla some day. I've heard great things about it, and I have a couple of friends who have gone. Cool about the coke too, awesome that they have such good harm reduction. It seems like more us festivals have drug testing programs than Canadian ones.

Nah, no raves recently. Most recent was the 420/Easter rave. Now I've left bush doof area, And as winter is coming, I think I'd have to go up north to find more. Although, it is great to have bonfires and people gathering around them when it is cold.