Psychedelic Bump XXXIV

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  1. Colimon

    Colimon Cheesus Christo

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    I too wonder what was going on in that individual's head before leaping to his fiery fate. It'll be a little hard to ask him now though...
     
  2. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    Thought about it a bit more.. I see that is an exquisite work of art, but fuck.

    To be so infatuated with the beauty of death that you'd literally dance yourself into the flames? That shit's fuckin' deep, and hellishly romantic. It's a pity it was so poorly executed.
    If you're going for the ultimate sacrifice, give the world something to chew on other than a shitty media report. Consider every line and make each of them count.

    Then again, nature is raw beauty.. a mindless self-sacrifice is a rather crude attempt at something that would have happened naturally with a subtle grace and elegance.

    Then again then again, he's not separate from that, so I suppose it is elegant.


    Fuck. Yeah, I applaud the man, even if his reasons weren't my interpretation.
     
  3. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    LSD camping trip coming up in two days!
     
  4. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    The guy was no Buddhist monk in protest, he was just a dumbass ignoring the pleas of his tribe.
     
  5. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    I agree.. Fiery suicide doesn't always = protest.

    Love is blind!
     
  6. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    Found some Mxe!

    Bump
     
  7. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    ;lkjkl;kkkkkkkj
     
  8. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    ^
    Sounds like you've found some of the good stuff.
    :p
     
  9. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Been looking at methoxyphenidine (MXP) for a while as I haven't been able to find MXE lately. I like trying new drugs, though I'm a bit more skeptical than I once was after trying the nbome series ..not a big fan of 2c-p either.

    Some people say that MXP is good, but ip if u compare it to MXE you will be disappointed so u must to try it as it's own thing and not compare it to anything else. Also seen a few comparisons to DXM. Apparently MXP seems to be better received than diphenidine though, I see diphenidine described as "too bland", probably too much of a pure nmda antagonist and not enough dopamine activity thus a lack of warmth and euphoria and just a general fucked up feeling.
     
  10. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i'm back from camping.

    on thursday night we hiked to the spot with all of our stuff and set up camp.
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    on friday morning while gathering more firewood, i must have stepped in a bee/wasp nest, because i got stung four times and had to run through the creek to escape. after i thought i was safe, i got stung in the upper thigh by one that had went up my shorts! it wasn't a huge deal, but it made my left hand (2 stings) hurt and not function 100% correctly for the duration of the trip.

    wewent for a little hike downstream (the opposite direction that we normally hike) and found a nice little swimming hole.
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    at about 1:50 pm, we decided to dose. my brother took ~2.5 hits, and i took the rest of what i had, ~3 and a half. these were the hits that were simply torn from a sheet, so they were hard to measure, but my previous largest dose of these was 2 small hits, which resulted in pretty strong trips, one at a built to spill concert, and one at my apt. and the park.
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    then we started hiking upstream while waiting for it to kick in. that happened pretty quickly, and soon we were laying down on rocks in the middle of the creek...tripping pretty hard. we hiked through a gorge with an enormous wall of rocks containing about a million shades of brown and gray. that wall is always amazing to look at, but especially when you're tripping haha. there's a picture of that from a previous year in my album on here titled camping.

    then we made it to the small waterfalls (another old pic in my album) and spent a couple hours there. we stuck our heads under the falls so that we were completely behind them. that was like entering a different dimension and we spent a good deal of time entertaining ourselves with this and laughing uncontrollably.

    then we laid on the rocks and watched the super tiny fish in the water, and the water-skimming bugs on top of it. this seemed like the interface of two separate worlds, and my brother and i observing them was like a third. i started thinking about what if there was a "fourth level" - someone or something observing our actions without us being aware of it?

    these fish seemed to be just scavenging for food, relentlessly swimming against the current to feed off of the tiny fern-like plants in the water. it was like i could feel that their only mission was to eat and to reproduce. it was like i was observing the essence of life or the pulse of this planet or something. as humans, we lead complicated lives with lots of stuff going on, and most of us would probably think of ourselves as a few steps above simply creatures like these fish...but are we really any different from them? maybe we are simply feeding and reproducing too, with a bunch of insignificant details to fill in the gaps.

    it also seemed like i was observing evolution at work. it seemed like every so often, one of those fish would "learn" that it could break through the barrier of these two separate worlds, and eat a bug from on top of the surface of the water. i imagined that this would afford that fish a greater food supply and therefore a competitive advantage. i imagined nature selecting these type of fish to reproduce and pass on their genes. overall, i was feeling a strong sense of the never-ending "pulse of life" or something like that, and it was quite a beautiful thing to contemplate.


    eventually we made our way back to the campsite and spent some time being indecisive. should we change our wet clothes? should we hike back downstream to the swimming spot? we decided to just sit around and wait til it was time to start a fire and start cooking dinner (teriyaki-marinated steaks on the rill, and fire-roasted sweet potatoes, peppers, onions and mushrooms).
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    we spent the rest of the night feeding the fire, listening to music and talking.
    this song was particularly trippy while lying in the tent:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3T8NtbwME


    later in the night we got to talking about how the sheer length of time would make it unlikely for intelligent life to exist elsewhere in the universe at the same time as humans. looking at the gorge earlier, which must have taken millions of years to carve out, got me thinking about the immense time span of the universe. the earth is only about 4 billion years old, and there are planets out there that are about twice as old! what if they have had twice as long to evolve complex, intelligent lifeforms? i "concluded" that since my primate brain is too limited to even think about the time scale involved in carving out a gorge through the action of running water, that i have NO hope of comprehending what billions of years mean....and for that reason, i think that the universe has or will contain MUCH intelligent life, but that we may never cross paths with them, because we might all exist for only a short blip in the overall time of the universe.

    i've read that there are about 1,000 stars in the universe for every grain of sand on earth! that means that there is roughly 1 "earth-like" plant for every single grain of sand on earth. with those kinds of numbers, how can there NOT be other intelligent life out there somewhere?



    this was my 5th summer in a row of camping at this spot. it was a great time, a great trip, great to see my brother who lives far away, and i can't wait to hopefully do it again next year.
     
  11. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Interesting observations. I've though about things like that myself. Like what if carbon based life isn't the only form of "life" that is possible, what if life doesn't have to be like anything we could even comprehend, not even made of matter even. There could be dark matter life, or dark energy entities. Since dark matter doesn't really interact with regular matter it would be like 2 seperate worlds.
     
  12. guerillabedlam

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    As far as I understand, Dark matter does interact with regular matter, it's not perceptible by electromagnetic force. The theory proposed of dark matter was due to the fact that celestial bodies move at such speeds that they should be flying apart from each other if normal matter was all there was, so the gravitational force from dark matter is what keep them 'together.'
     
  13. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    and as such it is still unsubstantiated theory, like black holes.
     
  14. guerillabedlam

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    Hasn't evidence of black holes been substantiated by the observable effect they have on stars and material around them?
     
  15. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    yes and no.
    We are only observing an effect, and then have constructed an event/phenomena to explain the observed effect.

    Not really the same thing as actually observing the thing itself.
    There could always be another reason for the observed effect.

    but then again, about 95% of scientific "fact" is actually theory to explain observations that as of yet we haven't come across a better explanation for.

    and historically it is simply a matter of better expanding our sensory input via technology.
     
  16. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    the way i see it, if you observe an effect, there has to be a cause. you can call the cause whatever you want, right now they're calling it dark matter (and dark energy). Maybe once they learn more about it, those names might not make sense anymore.
     
  17. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    I was just messing around making chemical structures in GChemPaint .. i made one that I call "Iodoxetamine"

    It's basically a methoxetamine molecule where an iodine atom has replaced the methoxy group in methoxetamine.

    It looks like a nice looking molecule to me, I'd take a little bit ;) seems to be a lot of variations on the arylcyclohexylamine structure that haven't been made. Why hasn't anyone tried making any of these molecules?

    It won't let me save as a .PNG file for some reason so i can't upload it right now
     
  18. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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  19. Colimon

    Colimon Cheesus Christo

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    That's pretty interesting actually. Even if it didn't have "desired effect" for the masses, its synthesis would at least be in the name of science. I don't know much of chemistry, but a friend was suggesting something interesting the other day: the structure of 5-meo-DMT in that of LSD (making 12-MeO-LSD). David E. Nichols responded to our questions with it HAS been synthesized and only tested on rodents.
     
  20. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Iodoxetamine:
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    "Iodo-n-ethylnorketamine"
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    I say we need someone to carry on the work of sasha shulgin, in the area of arylcyclohexylamines .. there's a lot of ways it can go, i'm sure some of them would be quite interesting in effects.

    What about iodo-deschloroketamine .. a ketamine molecule where the chlorine atom is replaced with a heavier halogen? What would happen if you increased the n-substituent to a carbon chain longer than ethyl? Ethyl seemed to increase potency as seen in the potency of methoxetamine vs. ketamine which has methyl, and phenyl seems to increase potency even more as seen in PCP.

    Isopropoxetamine:
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