Psychedelic Bump XXIII

May as well post this here... took some Bali Kratom about an hour ago which has been mostly fail up to this point. There are some subtle changes going on but I can't really differentiate what it's actually doing from what I'm attempting to will it to do. Might be something I may get more from in combination or to ease a comedown.

I found this article interesting and perhaps it explains why cats seem so wise when tripping...

http://news.discovery.com/animals/pets/cats-have-super-psychedelic-vision-140218.htm

 

^ awesome article. I always wondered what's going on behind those eyes.

Funny, in fact today after I parked my car at the gym I saw a cat who just popped down from a tree right in front of me on the ground. I just stared at it for a good minute watching it study the landscape and react to the smallest disturbances of its senses.

 

yeah, i liked the article too. i just gave my cat some catnip. he's goin wild!

 

Bump for 250mg of Propylhexedrine

I find this stuff so damn smooth compared to other stimulants. Too bad it has nasty health risks with habitual use. Other than that it's great stuff

So far weening myself off of tobacco has been going very well so far. I went from 3-6 a day down to .5 - 1. My friend traded me a nice White Rhino E-Cig Vaporizer with an attachment for Hash Oil in return for a few trips worth of chems and $30. Pretty good considering this thing is $110+.

Anyways, I've been puffing on this a bit (e-cig liquid) and I actually really like it. I originally picked it up so I could make my own E-Cig liquids containing 5-MeO-MIPT, MXE, etc for quick, efficient vaporization. Ever since I have gotten it though my consumption of tobacco has gone down fairly easily and quickly. I've always heard that these things aren't very good for quitting, but for myself it's the exact opposite. I find the buzz it gives to be superior to the buzz of smoking tobacco. It's way more subtle, but instead of most likely feeling like shit for 10 minutes after a cigarette, the E-Cig gives me a nice, mild, stimulating buzz. If I over do the E-Cig I just get slightly nauseous and overstimulated and it that last about 5 minutes before going away. If I smoke too much tobacco I feel like I have to chug as much water as I can, lay down with my eyes closed, and let the feeling of nausea, overstimulation, and dizziness pass. This often happens after just .5 - 1 cig. The buzz from the E-Cig is almost like freebasing caffeine. You also get a nice throat hit so it does satisfy the oral fixation of smoking for the most part

 

I'm glad I quit cigarettes

This is my current vaporizer, I'd like to learn to make e-juice with benzos, psychedelics, and other shit that I could vape put of it. What about DMT e-juice?

 

What are you talking about?

 

He's talking about using ecig vaporizers to administer the drugs of your choice. It works well for delivering nicotine, Im sure it could be made to work well to deliver any other drug.

 

No way! 5-meo-mipt seems likely but can you really do that with something such as mxe? isn't that supposed to be very toxic?

 

Woh woh woh woh woh, fucking Jesus!

First scientific study of LSD in 40 years shows positive therapeutic results

In The Independent!!


:sunny:

 

That picture works well as a reaction to the article it's gorgeous anyways

what's interesting in the article as well is that the group that was given a LOW dose of LSD actually had an INCREASE of anxiety that lasted a while . . . it only went away once they "switched over" and took another high dose. Just some objective fact to tuck away in your mind; "low doses of psychedelics can be more unpleasant than high doses", a topic we've discussed here numerous times.

I'm sorry to hear the difficult turn of events Shiv. I'd stay sober and work on what went wrong. It sounds like there's a lot of logistic stuff to handle, not to mention the raw emotions that need to be processed sober for some time to come.

 

i am reading, writer

but they are talking about psychological difficulty or anxiety.

with 2ce, the difficulty has to do with my body, not my mind. unless it's all psychosomatic, which i don't believe.

 

bump for sprouting baby phenethylamine-makers




they're kinda hard to see but the bolivian torch are doing very well, a couple peruvian torch have sprouted, 3 lophophora williamsi (peyote) have sprouted and are really healthy, and, unfortunately none of the lophophora williamsi (var. ceaspitosa) have sprouted yet.

 

The group that took the full dose of LSD initially didn't report the anger or deal with the anxiety as much as the placebo group. I feel validated in recommending high doses of psychedelics initially.

 

the anxiety vs. dose paradox seems to be a common thing with powerful psychedelics. It's the ego that provides the anxiety. Once the initial jolt is over on higher dose psychedelics, there's usually not enough of you left to provide the fear.

...but that is not always true. It is a common justification for recommending high dose first times, but I don't think that's really a good idea. People should still get acclimatized to stuff like LSD before they go beyond 3 or 4 hits.

 

When I say high dose, I mean a dose at which one will likely be experiencing the full breadth of a psychedelic experience. Going beyond 4 hits of quality LSD is getting into 'heroic dose' territory, a term which Terrence Mckenna generally used in reference to extremely high doses of Psilocybin Mushrooms (5 grams and above), but which I think is relatively applicable to LSD as well. I agree a heroic dose may be excessive for a novice explorer.

 

I believe I have never ingested a "heroic dose" of anything, especially not once tolerance is accounted for at the time of higher doses.

I am afraid that if I tried such a thing I would fail The Test.

Does "heroic dose" terminology apply only to long-acting psych's? For instance, is a breakthrough dose of DMT inherently "heroic"?

Another question, just out of interest, beyond the "breakthrough point" does a larger dose of DMT make a difference if vaped?

 

Yah It's a "heroic dose" not meant to be gradual redoses or explored with accumulated tolerance.

I'd consider a breakthrough dose of DMT "heroic" however given the duration and nature of the DMT trip it's kind of different then long-acting psychedelics, it's not a trip that I'd reccommend to a novice psychedelic user regardless of dose. I think exploring a long-acting psychedelic first and then exploring a breakthrough DMT trip would provide more perspective for the DMT breakthrough trip, as well as retain it's novelty.

 

I think "heroic" typically means some significant distance above "large", and a breakthrough dose of DMT is your typical "large" dose of DMT that most everyone does when smoking it. There must be an element of rarity to the dose for it to be deemed "heroic"; most people aim to smoke ~50mg of DMT to breakthrough, so that's almost a standard dose. So imo a "heroic" dose of smoked DMT would be several breakthrough doses at once; not something I would recommend for your mind or your DMT stash

I wouldn't get too bogged down with the terminology . . . "heroic" is all subjective and relative

 

heroic dose dmt is 50 mg-120 mg.
above that it's od

edit: I posted the lsd study article earlier.. If you guys liked it, I also linked a pdf with a lot more detailed info about the studies.