Psychedelic Bump XXIII

Is it necessary to use extra screens aside from the sandwich of herbs? I'm also planning on using DMT here soon. I have a plastic vaporgenie and plan on using the sandwich method described here. Should I begin with a light dose and work my way up, or should I just try a "breakthrough" dose first time?

 

extra screens are a good idea from what i hear. below the dmt to catch any that melts.

i don't think your vaporgenie is plastic

 

I reccommend aiming for a breakthrough dose initially. The duration of the DMT trip is too brief to really analyze and get acclimated to the the experience and lower doses are fairly familiar terrain if you've had a number of tryptamine experiences. I don't find much value in sub-breakthrough trips except for maybe using it in conjunction with other psychedelics or as a supplement aid in meditation or similar activity. The high dose breakthrough DMT trip is what really sets it apart and imo best explored in novel conditions.

I've never used extra screens with DMT so I can't vouch from personal experience but I've also heard it's good to use.

 

What do you mean by "novel conditions"?

 

New and unique.

 

What are your (or anybody else's) thoughts on 3-MeO-PCP? It sounds pretty nice and right now I'm able to get a gram ridiculously cheap. The only things that alarm me with having that amount around is that I can have a tough time not redosing dissociatives to reach a deeper state, and that 3-MeO-PCP has such a long duration.

 

my pupil reflex is totally fucked up ...again. (this happened before. )
Light actually started to hurt my eye daytime. .

any other EZ rollers had this effect? how long does the pupil dilation of the mdma last?

I had this before but back then I was droppin the E with lsd.. every week, for a few months.... so that was a different situation.

anyone else here has strange pupil reflex?

LOok in the mirror and tell me what you see!

Peace!!

 

Do you mean this in terms of setting? Isn't a breakthrough experience more-or-less internal? What variables are you talking about mixing up??

 

and now for something completely different....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBw0SByRo1g"]Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Benny The Bouncer - YouTube

 

I can't really tell if the physical effects were just a bit too much for me or if it was just more of an overall undesireable experience. I definitely enjoyed some aspects of it and I felt like had I been a few years younger, it may have been an experience I could have appreciated a bit more. I'm not old but I'm past the point where stimulating dissassociatives really do it for me, MXE is about as far as that threshold I care to brush up against. I still enjoy other stimulating drugs, but stimulating disassociatives tend to make me feel very manic or something, so it's maybe just one of those things...

Never had pupil dialation last that long from MDMA, I think my pupils can take maybe about up to 24 hours to readjust sometimes but back to normal shortly thereafter.

Yes in terms of setting, I was going to expand on my post and address that second question but for some reason I refrained. The DMT breakthrough is mostly an internal experience but in some minute way the setting still tends to factor in for me as well, as if some distant notion of body in some way still registers the frequencies/coordinates of launch, or perhaps it's just upon re-entry where it really matters but regardless I seem to generally process setting in some abstract fashion at some point on DMT. I recall a particular trip where music was playing in the room next to me and that music still remotely factored into my trip. I believe even Terrence Mckenna suggested a dim lit room with diffused sunlight (closed window blinds) as the optimum setting for exploring DMT, so I think another illustration of how attention to setting detail is still required.

 

http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2012/12/deconstructed-watercolor-portraits-by-henrietta-harris/

 

Hm, I'm not quite sure whether or not I would enjoy that. I find MXE somewhat stimulating but not as much as some. It does make me pretty manic sometimes.
How was the mania compared to MXE? How was the urge to re-dose compared to MXE? I know that you prefer IM as your ROA when it comes to dissociative and that I prefer the oral ROA which will effect things, but I'd still love to hear a comparison. If it's pretty stimulating and manic I assume it feels pretty dopaminergic, no?
One more question; one unique effect that I really enjoy with MXE is the Megalomania that it often causes. Do you find that any other dissociatives that you have tried have had that effect? I've only tried DXM and MXE and I have never experienced Megalomania with DXM, so as far as I know its a completely unique aspect of MXE

Bump for about 35mg of Adderall earlier today. I've been abusing drugs way more than I should have lately; especially MXE and psychedelics. Tomorrow I plan on starting the process of weening myself off of tobacco. I've been a smoker for 2 years but I figure that I should try to quit now before it's too late. For the last 2 weeks I've been using MXE almost everyday, during which I probably also tripped at least 5 times. Over the course of those 2 weeks I decided that starting tomorrow I am going to do my very best to cut back my drug use significantly. I look forward to clearing my head after a few years of somewhat excessive drug use and hopefully gaining the magic that I lost with stimulants, psychedelics, and dissociatives. So tonight is sort of like my 'last' hoorah before trying to cut back. In another hour or two I'm going to take .5mg of etizolam and 5mg of Oxycodone with another .5mg of etizolam at bedtime. Also picked up a quarter of dank buds.

Anyways, I'll stop rambling

 

From what I recall, I went through the the 3-me0-pcp very quickly so there is a strong urge to redose. I was using N-ethyl-norketamine in tandem with 3-meo-pcp and that seemed to tone down the manic aspects so I can't really gauge how manic it is, but it felt pretty dopaminergic.

Megalomania is not really an aspect I seek but I have found aspects from that in Ketamine and 3-meo-pcp. Ketamine in the sense where you feel you can kind of control aspects of the trip in your mind and 3-me0-pcp more along the lines of feeling a surge of unreliqueshed strength.

 

mushroom biology question:

So I get that alkaline phosphatase takes the phosphate of Psylocybin when you metabolize it into psylocin in your large intestine, then psylocin is the active compound. But the fact that the metabolism is a dephosphorylation makes me imagine that the 4-po-dmt like provides energy for the mushrooms or something...

When mushrooms synthesize their 4-po-dmt, do they ever use its phosphate to do their own reactions internally, or do they just synthesize it and wait for someone to eat 'em?

Like is psylocybin functional in some way in the mushroom, itself, aside from being bioactive in animals? Why is it there??? I've heard people theorize that it's an evolutionary defense mechanism of some kind. I find it crazy how we've all evolved to use these plants and fungi and they've evolved to (in some ways) use us. It all seems so suspiciously perfect.

Not saying intelligent design. More saying that the universe itself, at its macrocosmic level, must in some way be intelligent. Or maybe its not and that's the beauty of it ???

I know its einstine quote overdone, but it just holds so true: "The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility ... The fact that it is comprehensible is a miracle"

 

Thanks for comparing for me. I'm worried about the urge to redose because of the long duration, mixed with it's potency and the mania. I'm not the best at saying no when I really should. I'm starting to lean towards just not ordering it. It is seriously insanely cheap for a gram, but with ~10mg being the dose and vendors usually over-weighing, I probably shouldn't have that much laying around. When I do dissociatives though I find it hard to stop. They are probably the most addictive class for me, just ahead of stimulants.

Ha, the relinquished strength sounds pretty awesome. I'm really curious to try a PCP analogue since I am unable to get a hold wet itself. Have you tried PCP and if so how does it compare with 3-MeO-PCP?

I love the Megalomania caused by MXE. Personally it's most often a profound sense that I am going to do great things in my life. Sometimes it's the thought of me learning the guitar and of course eventually becoming a legend. Or becoming very successful in life, becoming a great chemist, get an elusive career that focuses on psychopsychology or psychopharmacology. Sometimes it's the sense that everything that is going on around me is somehow connected to me. That I am the center of the universe. That I am the protagonist in the middle of some cosmic event. Usually when I get mania with MXE it comes in the form of Megalomania which I happen to be a euphoric and extremely pleasurable feeling.

 

interesting question, hedge. i dunno

sounds like a good idea to me

 

Good luck, SuperPsychMe. Particularly, good luck with the quitting smoking. Until last year I would've said I would never touch cigarettes, then suddenly I was in a social environment where it was super-regular and I started. Since then I've had a helluva time getting away from it. Haven't smoked for a couple weeks now, but I wouldn't say I've quit, as I'm definitely planning to smoke cigs (and blunt wraps) when I'm travelling next month.

 

One thing I find amazing is the life cycle some parasites go through in which they have to inhabit different specific hosts in order to complete it.
Talk about "design".


and funny how you shy away from using the phrase "intelligent design". LOL
What else would you call it? There certainly does appear to be some intention behind the way shit works.
Where that intention comes from, ???????

 

I'm not sure if there is intention or not.. the only thing that comes to mind is survival, but that's ultimately pointless too. I think survival is a product of intelligence, on some scale.. and I'd say intelligence is part of the universe, but I wouldn't say the universe is intelligent.

It's too chaotic, so chaotic that it imposes on itself and then hey presto! Here everything is.. cos something's gotta happen.

 

i think biology is way too sloppy to have been "intelligently designed"
don't get me wrong, i think life is amazing...but when you get down to the molecular level things are often very wasteful and could have been designed much better.

there are plenty of examples where natural, biological things seem "unintelligently designed." a nerve in a giraffes neck for example, travels ALL the way down his neck, loops around something, and travels all the way back up the neck, just to do it's job which is located a few inches away from where it originated.

i don't really like the phrase "intelligent design" because it seems to have an un-academic stigma associated with it. i have seen a lot more support in favor of evolution, although i don't deny that there are aspects of it that we may not understand.