Psychedelic Bump XXIII

quick trip report.

so I have been awake for a loong time taking ginseng and drinking coffee all day..I bought a six pack o beers and drank 2, gave some to my Jamaican friend and then I went home, But I was unable to sleep and i have decided for some reason to eat some acid. Not a good idea if you are already sleep deprived and tired from work..

anyways.. comeup was interesting. suddenly I started feeling sick. the alcohol was poison I thought and I nearly puked.. then this feelin went away and i was in a nice heavy visual trippy space. My vision was filled with rainbows, turning kaleidoscope, I was dancing with precise hand movements. playing with tracers. It felt like I found strings inside the air and I was pulling them and playing around with the visuals with my hand. My whole vision was filled with rainbow and sunshine.
Because of the sedation effect of the alcohol this was the first time I was actually able to take a very good look around. there was no anxiety at all. I felt sober. The most interesting thing I saw was this biomechanical hallucination on my leg. like there were big pulsating synthetic veins right under my skin. freaky.. I saw hair grow back and disappear on parts where I was shaved..etc the usual lsd stuff..


So I was sitting around in this trippy world and have decided to smoke some dmt. I could barely see from all teh fuckin rainbows so i spilled some while I loaded my pipe, I took a metal mesh, put some dmt on it, melted it into it then loaded the machine.

I was able to take 2 tokes before I put the pipe down. there was a lamp above me and suddenly the light of the lamp filled my vision. I heard a tone rising in pitch and getting more and more intense and as the experience peaked there was only white light and that sound. everything else was gone. I was up in a cloud like place, floating. it was like heaven. there was one thought inside my mind: Perfection. I was complete and I was dead and I was everything. And I swear there were some angel looking winged characters entities appearing tho I could not take a good look around this time...
it lasted for an eternity.

then I came down. Coughed up an egg like I always do (weird dmt hallucination, I always cough up a golden egg on the comedown) then I continued with the lsd trip.

amazing synergy and I would do it again. :sunny:

 

bump. for lulz.. i saw lsd xtals. expensive as fuck .. but lol.. ill get some and snort 10 mg..

 

i wonder which other posts? i think it's probably more due to the etilozam like super said. at least miprocin didn't seem that way for me. i would consider redosing miprocin to extend the duration, but it would be planned in advance..not like a more-ish thing.

so does that mean if you taste the DMT, you are burning it? or does it mean that if you burn it...it will taste very strong and harsh?

i wonder if passion flower or mugwort burn at slightly lower temp. than weed. i've previously used vaped weed for the sandwich method. i've tried ~45 mg of yellowy-orange DMT as my highest doses. i don't think i've broken through, but once i think was pretty close. it may require a higher dose, but i think i could do a lot better with a glass vapor genie or a homemade dmt "machine."

i always used my bong with water in it. do you just use a pipe GB? should i go without the water?



do you use screens? spicey cat said i should load like 6 or 8 screens in the bowl and then pack dmt on top. and that plant material burns too hot, so that it inevitably burns some of the dmt. maybe i should just try dmt on screens next time...

 

A few posts I've read now, which I'm not going to bother digging up. When I initally read some TR's on Miprocin awhile ago, I saw comparisons to Mushrooms and seen you compare it to 4-aco-dmt. I get more of a carefree vibe with some of the miprocin reports posted here recently compared to those other trips. Sounds fascinating.

If there is a harsh smoke it means you are burning it. I've heard conflicting reports on some taste, but ime some of my most intense DMT trips have been after smoking and experiencing a slight taste and on top of that my lips often feel really strange as well.

I smoke with a bubbler, some water and no screens. While I'd like to try out a Glass Vapor Genie, I am satisfied with my method. I feel I get the whole dose, taking into considerations how DMT trips can be quite varied, maybe at the most like a -5 mgs dose compared to what I would with a Vaporizer, which I can't really justify purchasing a Glass Vapor genie given the frequency that I smoke DMT. I've turned on a few people to DMT and all had Full on Breakthroughs.




Likely going to bump 150 mgs IM NEK

 

people you turned onto DMT had full breakthroughs at what dose?
what kinds of effects does that entail? i guess you know when it happens..

 

Just secured tickets for my GF and I to go see Shpongle in March! I'm really excited, I've only been to 2 shows before and never one of this time. I was fortunate enough to see Roger Waters perform The Wall in Portland and I got to see Macklemore do a college show.

I'm not sure what to partake in. The options I'm considering so far are: 4-FA (first show, dont wanna get to overwhelmed), 4-HO-MIPT, Methylone, 4-ACO-DMT + Methylone, HOT-7, 5-MeO-MIPT or MDMA. My GF tends to stay away from empathogens, so it's looking like it may be HOT-7 or Moxy. I'm personally leaning towards finding some MDMA or trying 4-ACO-DMT + Methylone

 

~50 mgs. In those trips, I didn't really pry too much into full explanations of their trips because I realize it's such an ineffable thing to describe, particularly without the ability to sit, think about it and type it out. They made it clear that they were completely somewhere else mentally, one friend said she saw like Dia De Los Muertos entities communicating with her, another friend I was trip sitting, said on his peak "I see angels" but upon coming down he denied seeing any and didn't think he even said that, however he mentioned that the fractals and patterns were mindblowing.

The latter trip really made me question aspects on how the mind deals with these intense experiences. I think many of us can understand the mind of a person who may sometimes exaggerate affects of a trip but before trip sitting for my friend, I never considered the possibility that the mind may downplay some affects of a trip as well to the point where they may not even recall experiencing phenomena a few minutes later. I know a lot of psychedelics impair short term memory but it seemed like his mind was kind of shielding some aspect of his psyche from that phenomena upon coming down.

Enjoy that! I might consider getting tickets as well, I've seen him/them a few times but not with this particular setup he'll have.

Probably doesn't matter too much with what you go with, I'm sure you'll enjoy it, the music is amazing. May I throw in a reccomendation for 4-aco-dmt+ MDMA... I took that combo for Tool and it was incredibly profound as far as a concert experiences goes. I love MDMA for shows, if you were to take that and not to mix it with another psychedelic, (or with a Hallucinogen if you see empathogens as some discriminate category) and you are one of those who tends to get puddled on it, I'd recommend you pick up energy strips...

 

part of me wonders if i "downplay" the effects somewhat.

on DMT, i did have a vivid imagined "vision" of some type of entities with dreadlocks wearing glittering or glowing, bright green suits that allowed them to slip in and out of space time.

i felt like i was sitting in the waiting room to hyperspace, but was never called back.

it just didn't seem like the "flying through hyperspace" experience that people describe. maybe it would just take one more large toke.

 

Yeah, I'm one to get puddled. What's your view on the bk-MDMA/4-ACO-DMT flip? I'm definitely going to talk to my girlfriend about getting some MDMA for it. And what are those energy strips?

 

Haven't combo'd those... As far as the energy strips, I think those energy strips are fairly prevalent, they look like blotter hits. tee hee

 

I think It'd be nice. Either way I think we'll be trying to get some MDMA and maybe do a low dose of 4-AcO-DMT or 4-HO-MIPT with it.

 

a friend of mine told me once:

if you wanna experience dmt to teh fullest buy a vulcan vaporizer and load 100 mg into it. its gonna fill up the bag with the smoke (but its not crystallizing on the bag) and you can inhale it in one toke.

edit: I might have a chance to buy some of the lsd xtal thats floatin around here. If you could do a thumbprint dose.. would you? where would you do it?
Should I rent a hotel room or should I try to find a cabin inside a forest? (no trip sitter, I am ready to die) serious question!

 

10mg would be a very high dose. That would be 50-100 hits based on average dosing of a blotter. Don't snort it though it will be a waste.

Be careful about doing a thumb print you will be high for days maybe a week or two. The kind of high that you might never fully come down from. But if I would buy it if it were me.

I know a guy who ran his finger through the "sludge" as he called it. Like from breaking a crystal down the left over he put it on his tongue. He definitely had a bad trip it was too much. But now he laughs about it and is not messed up long term.

 

gendorf: don't do a thumbprint in a hotel. do the cabin.

 

gendorf, do you mean a volcano vaporizer? i have one similar to that, but i'd be worried about the dmt turning to liquid and dripping on the heating element.

i personally don't think i'd take a thumbprint if i had access to that my crystal. i'd have to try ~1 mg first...

 

NO experience to back this up.. but I think the law of diminishing returns will apply to excessively high doses of psychedelics.

There'll come a point where judgement is just so... non existent, and I'm guessing your sober mind would only really be left with "wow, that was fuckin' crazy".

 

Thank you all.. I think I will be able to find a cabin in the mountains where I could do it.
A place where my parents always took me summertime when I was akid.

Not planning to do anything now tho. So dont worry about me. even lookin at the xtals would make me high and its expensive as hell but I might consider eating rice for a month to get them. hopefully it stays around..

Porkstock:

vulcano is this :



I never tried this thing but the guy swore that this was the best method to do high dosing.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5w6VN1piUc"]Puff, Puff, Pass - full movie (eng) - YouTube

 

what makes you think you have lsd xstals? How do you know it's not 25i crystals or w/e....

 

i have an arizer extreme, works just like the volcano. i wouldn't know what temperature to set it, and i'd be worried about contaminating my vaporizer with DMT taste. i still might try it though. haven't tried any DMT in almost 2 years. hope it stays good for that long in the fridge (in glass jars, with desiccant).


i've never seen those energy strips before, GB.