Psychedelic Bump XV

I'm looking forward to hearing the details too. His last post sounded like it was going most excellent and I have high hopes that his first real psychedelic experience knocked his socks off. :2thumbsup:

 

Tonight will be the night. LSD will be an option tonight, but I am going with the MDMA.

My brother will be arriving today, as well. He'll be in town for the holidays.

 

I thought this. I now don't know what I think.

Hypothetically, say this life is an illusion. If one completely realizes that it is an illusion, would they stay in the illusion or would they almost automatically (being in a different state of consciousness) leave it?

If a person could "leave" it, I suspect that to others that remain, it would just be seen as that person dying.

2C-E has done things that no other substance has. This experience was even more bizarre. Maybe, this sort of "fear" is just a device used by my brain to stop me from letting go. Because, one thing I notice about the 2C-Xs is that they do no delve deep into your subconscious they tend to keep your sense of self wrapped in the lies that protects it. The sole profound aspect of 2C-E, for me, has been its existential mindfucks. The only things that have "presented" this sort of oneness and view into infinity have been my DPT experiences and my mushroom trip that I call me "main mushroom trip." Still, I don't think those two avenues offered me this coherent and apparent of an experience.

The strange thing was, I sort of "knew" that if I let go I would die. My main fear was leaving my love, tripping her face off , with the responsibility of getting help and the fear and pain of death.


I have had this creeping fear the last few times on 2C-E, but not like this. The last few times, when I begin to see green and pink patterns (even over the already apparent patters) and here this sound that can only be explained over the web as a constant and infinite "dwee-dwee-dwee-dwee-dwee.." and so on, I get a subtle and unexplainable anxiety. If I wait a bit longer, I start receiving, for lack of a better word, information and experiencing the oneness and infinite nature of existence. Two times, as I've said in the past, I have "encountered" a humanoid in my open-eye field that formed out of the green and pink patterns (mostly the green patterns).

This HAD TO have happen on my first 75 mg experience when I went in my dark, silent room alone after I saw the humanoid the first time on my bathroom door. I just don't remember much after I went to bed... just a few things.

 

wait...you're not a squirrel?!:sunny:

 

why not both? sounds like it would be fun. i've only done it with a low dose and some other drugs, so i couldnt really speak for it

 

i think it's best to try new substances on their own for the first time

 

Hey peeps. Here's the down-low on what happened last night. I'm not going to write a trip report because I essentially didn't trip. I remember telling you guys that I was planning to start with half a gram just to kinda get used to the headspace, and to make sure that they were not going to make me sick or anything since I grew them myself. Most of you were telling me that half a gram really wasnt going to be enough. Well, it's time for you guys to say ''I told you so''.

Something DID happen, but it was definetly not psychedelic. I guess the only way to describe it was that I felt really weird. Like my body was vibrating a bit, and we laughed... alot. But there was no mind bending whatsoever. It wasnt enough.

On the positive note, I didnt get any nausea or anything, and I know SOMETHING happened, so I guess my shrooms work.

I'm already looking forward to the next time, and I think I'll eat like 1 gram or maybe even 2. We'll see. At least my shroom cherry was (gently) popped.

I really should have listened to you guys

EDIT: music was also really cool. I felt three dimensional. If that makes any sense.

 

Sounds like you got some minimal psychedelic effects Shivaya which is cool. I've never been a fan of the easing into psychedelics approach, especially with individuals like you who have expressed many times what you are looking to gain and learn from these amazing plants and chemicals. I'm sure you can kind of understand where I'm coming from after your experience, I also try to not recommend doses that I think will be beyond the scope of a newcomer to psychedelics to handle.

But the radical shift in consciousness is what primarily separates psychedelics from other drugs and that only happens with a solid dose, I feel after that intial shock experience to your perceptual system , than one can lower or higher the dose to feel more comfortable or push the boundaries.

 

please eat at least a gram and a half next time, shivaya. that's a very conservative dose. 1.5 grams or 2 grams should give you a good feel for it, without being TOO crazy.

 

Shiiiiiitttt.... Eat an eigth.... Your trying to learn from psychadelics. A low dose is just like getting a little high. defeats their purpose. I'm with porkstock though, Eat at least 1.5 grams. But Idk if even thats enough. I'd say at least 2-2.5 grams....

 

i'd say 1.5 to 3 grams would be a solid first dose. but i really think 1.5 is sort of a minimum.

i agree with ganja...eating a gram or so is just gonna get you "high." in a way it's showing less respect to the shroom
but really, do what you're comfortable with. i know you will. but if you eat 2 grams, you shouldn't be disappointed, OR overwhelmed (too much)

 

I think 2 grams of shrooms is good for a noob. If you want to be extra cautious then just make sure you have released tension before the trip via exercise or massage etc. and properly hydrate yourself, this will help your mindset going into the trip.

 

Does anybody else have a problem with the outside world being "dumb"? I feel like the only intelligence is within cyberspace. My friend tried to tell me the reason we don't roll anymore, or off his "88% pure chemically analized" mdma is because we don't have any serotonin left. Now I have done a LOT of 4-MMC but not in over a year so his reasoning doesn't make sense. Plus the place he said he had it analized at didn't even show up on a google search. I'm positive it was just a cathinone and 6/5 apb because the effects lasted forever and it wasn't very euphoric. Plus it fuckin smelled like a cathinone so I'm not an idiot. Every time I try and tell him facts he comes back with some kind of ridiculous BS. Maybe its cause i live in the south or out in the country or both but I feel like everybody thinks they know stuff about drugs but when I try and give facts from my personal online research they think I"M the stupid one....

I swear if it wasn't for forums I'd go crazy.

 

2 g's

 

True, alot of know-it-alls out there. I was given a convincing lecture by my cousin about LSD and Ecstacy being virtually the samething :willy_nilly:

 

How do you argue with them? or do you? I saw a post back about LSD being converted to DOC over time.... I mean whenever i argue i sound like an asshole because i laugh at their ignorance. But it sucks having no one in reality to talk to about drugs.....

 

2.5-3

 

Try going to drug classes where they tell you that weed causes chromosomal abnormalities, and if you try to disagree you risk failing probation. The amount of misinformation in the world, especially in regard to drugs, is outrageous.

 

I argue for a bit then realise it is futile.

 

yep. .5 was a waste of time for the purposes i'm trying to expermient. At least I learned THAT. hehe

I feel kinda embarassed lol