Psychedelic Bump XII

The apple cinnamon ginger chews are the shizz!

 

MY experience with catnip correlates with Cosmoknot's, a weak uninteresting high feeling and I got a hangover from it. It's psychoactive but also not worth it, kava kava extract is probably my favorite of those light legal highs, taste terrible but pretty chill and goes great with some weed.

 

I've had kava twice on hawaii trips and not felt a thing. Asked for the non flavored, potent drink and didn't feel any different. One of the hawaiians I know said if I ever had the real thing, prepared properly, that I would. But I've only tried the kava-bar drink version. Which tastes pretty crappy also.
Is the extract pretty effective?

 

Well it's usually ~$15 for a bottle and I find I need to drink about half the bottle to get high from it. I find it fairly chill it's sort of like a couple drinks maybe but with more of a chilled out clear headspace as opposed to buzzed disinhibition, I was unaware they sell it at bars, is that solely in Hawaii? The extract taste is bitter as hell and will numb your mouth so that may even elicit some affects and I've heard the real thing is superior to the extract as well.

I think kavalactones are the specific alkaloids that are psychoactive and I believe some extract preparations have low quantities of them, some may even remove them I dunno. I remember last time I tried it, I referred to erowid prior to dosing but found myself drinking about 200 mgs or so more than the dose I was aiming for. But I reiterate it goes really well with weed, borderline tripping.

 

i saw kava kava in that natural foods store. chopped up roots maybe? i dunno, it looked like wood. i suppose i would make tea out of it?


i saw the apple cinnamon ones, GM, but didn't get them

 

Yeah, the stuff that looks like chopped up wood you can make into tea. And as someone above me said, the rw extract IS NOT pleasant. Ive tried kava a couple times, my friend was quite interested in it, and it never really had ANY effect on me at all, maybe because i was used to more potent opiates than he was, maybe i didnt eat/drink enough.....idk..

Ohh and BUMP for 75mgs of 2ce on Friday along with some smokeables had a great trip!

 

Yah you would make a tea and that sounds like the legit stuff, tho there may be various kinds of roots. The kava extract I have gotten has been liquid and it comes with a dropper and I believe they have extract pills as well.

 

^^thanks. i don't really have much desire to try it - don't really know what it is even. but i may do some reading about it. i was confusing it with a stimulant plant (khat). and i sometimes also confuse kratom in there too.

do you not like to write trip reports? i feel like i'd have more than a sentence and a half to say about 75 mg of 2ce!

 

Ahh fuck.

See, if I could smoke weed, I'd be all for smoking weed, and/or mixing it with kava (something I'd like to try, in it's own right)

But I can't smoke weed, without going to jail....

I think pretty much all of them are illegal here, but synthetic cannabinoids are NOT my thing, either.

Guess I might as well try chopping up a cat toy and rolling it up, for shits and grins.

 

Funny you bring up khat in the same context as kava kava, lol, maybe I am rubbing off on you bro considering my guaranteed safe aya blend up and coming that I bounced off y'all WAS gonna contain khat, among a couple other questionables I ruled out in thanks to writer, forgiving either of you two's miscontrued ideas of me since this is a safe sounding board before tromping into the unknown, where as you're well aware I've most certainly remained in >.001% of the world's population in "questionable" or using your words, absurd combinations... of which kava kava is going into my aya. Call that ibogaine/DMT/mescaline/bufotenin/etc. trip a centering one, which I really need. Still luv ya porkstock!
@roor: my lowly opinion of catnip, freakin' catnip! needed a back-up from someone else?! LMFAO! You really don't know me and my love for life meets devil may care meets hard luck meets fairly academic approach to drugs and life in general... I know firsthand combining amphetamines/nasty-ass Ritalin, opiates, benzos, belladonna alkaloids (in very minute doses), barbiturates, hypertension meds, and muscle relaxers is doctor approved safe, and my skepticism over that led me to finding out the bulk of what I know. I ain't no rube
Haha, the kava is a finicky one, its freshness, preparation, age of roots n' shit DRASTICALLY effect kavalactone potency, and kavalactones aren't alkaloids like most psychoactives, plus there are like 18 kavalactones, of which not one is active alone and rather all are necessary to produce effect--and opioid receptors aren't their targets, in fact their neurochem is so complex its bewildering. Kava is a mild MAOI therefore antidepressant, it's a topical anesthetic, an anxiolytic, and a euphoriant, and disputedly a drunken effect either from kavalactones, that ritual where men spit the root in bowls, or somewhere in between.
@GB: damn it's eerie what you and I share in common...

 

Yah I had a fleeting interest to try khat at one point but then methylone and mephedrone came out both synthesized from khat I believe and I think they are far superior highs to the plant from the little I read about it.

 

Yeah cosmo, I know doctors say lots of stuff is safe. And even on their own, lots of (most of?) what they'll give you can be deadly.

And why the default scorn of catnip? I think it's a valid question..... It's obviously quite psychoactive in cats, and I've heard positive and negative things about human effects. Just because it's only catnip doesn't make it any POTENTIALLY less interesting. I'm not asking for an earth shattering trip out of it, just something comforting to smoke a joint of every now and then, since I can't smoke pot right now.

 

Bump for this old school house gem I discovered randomly tonight LOL. Must have been fun being apart of that 1st rave generation. Solid outfits too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAKwIqzgPM&feature=related"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAKwIqzgPM&feature=related

 

I dunno if drone/M1 are superior... gotta chew some khat and see. I've heard it's a more peppy and euphoric tweak than amp. Methcathinone sounds neat too, but screw like 4-MEC, MDPV, and 9/10ths of other caths. So glad I still have drone and M1 connects!

GB, you ever tried betel nut? Wanna try chewing that too.

 

I doubt it's solely in hawaii, I'm sure other places as it is native all over the south pacific and polynesia. It's lightly regulated there, the first time I had it I asked for it after dinner and a beer and the waitress said I had to finish my beer, they are not allowed to sell it and beer to the same customer. I thought the second time I'd have it on an empty stomach with no beer or food and had the same non-effect.

That's sort of what I was told, in simpler terms. The communities where kava is part of the culture, and the knowledge is passed on through the generations, is where you experience it properly, as I understand.
I think the bars in hawaii cater to haolies. Maybe HawaiianKine has something to add...

There's a couple of ethiopians at work... they talk about how good khat is. It's a no-no in the states but supposedly available in the UK. I didn't know that or I would have tried it when I was there. Any brits tried it?

 

I think khat became schedule 1 in the US because of the horror that accompanies the little glimpses of realization that people occasionally get that most of nature gets you high.

That and racism.

I think it's quite weak as far as amphetamine-like effects go, but quite strong compared to, say, caffeine.

 

That's the point I'm making is I did NOT trust doctors shoving shovelloads of pills at me, so began reading loads of clinical shit. In terms of higher brain functioning and short-term wear on the body, my daily cocktail is as safe as ibuprofen. It's the long-term metabolizing of shit and a crap shoot if my necessary evils, doctor dope, take my life by consuming my liver or kidneys first, so I'm at peace with an early death. I am in no hurry, but it is inevitable--and I've explained before, but living on short time, I wanna attempt as many psychedelic states before getting sick and dying from liver disease or dialysis, not some mad kamikazi Russian roulette bull, just the opposite, a lust for life.

As for catnip, I smoked it during a long hiatus from weed a couple times and it just calmed my nerves, but really get wild dagga and dream herb to smoke for a more cannabis type high, or make a tea from calamus, mugwort, kava kava, valerian root, corn poppies, passionflower, and skullcap. The calamus is similar to mescaline, the mugwort contains the same alkaloid as wormwood, thujone, which is unique unto itself, kava's been dissected above, and the rest are mellow hypnotics/anxiolytics. But for toking wild dagga, aka lion's tail blended with dream herb will be a close proximity...actually add blue lotus, those three herbs have great psychoactivity

Edit: Interesting fact, there is actually a [potential] grey market LSD analogue about as old and antique as LSD itself, the same demi-god, Albert Hoffman, actually isolated it too, ergonovine maleate. The guy who rediscovers that one and mass synthesizing it is basically reinventing LSD for an era of RC's and turning the masses on, both on a business and moral/social level that if I had the cash to mass synthesize it, maybe..........
And to think, using an 80 year old formulation
Fuck! I MUST get a copy of that Sandoz patent!

 

No I have not tried betel nut.

 

@RooRshack: My recommendation is to Look into Kanna, that stuff was probably the best weed substitute I've ever had. It won't get you baked like some of these synthetic cannabinoid herbal mixes but it's pretty decent from what I recall, certainly would be chill in a joint.

 

kanna....one more k-substance to confuse me