Psychedelic Bump VI

I know what you mean p0ly, just doesn't feel right to trip when the brain is under stress. Might get messy too. Hope everything is ok man.

I've never puked on a 2c, though I always get nauseous on the come up, and there's always some intestinal complaints. 35mg t7 was damn close though, the only thing that saved me was LOTS of ginger ale, cannabis, and fresh outdoor air. It was still close though lol. It gave me uncontrollable shits as well lol, but I have IBS so I usually get some fun toilet action on psychedelics, especially phens.

I agree that phens tend to be more recreational and less spiritual and serious like trypts. That is some of their appeal to me; I don't always want to cry into the bosom of the Great Fire Mandala in the Perseus galaxy, sometimes I just want to feel orgasmic and see beautiful things for a few hours

 

Yesh! Its among my favorites of the 4-substitutes, it's extremely visual and fully engulfing.

Wait porkstock, I thought you did deal with some gastric issues with 2cx's? Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but didn't we discuss at one point talking yourself through the whole nausea thing as a matter of mind over matter? I'm pretty sure we did and though we didn't exactly see eye to eye on it, I think we mostly agreed that a lot of the 2cx nausea, etc. is psychologically triggered. I can only speak for myself, and whether it's due to GI meds I take or not, I never get GI discomfort, vomit, etc. from any 2cx experience, though like porkstock, I will get some discomfort in the days to follow, albeit brief.

You aren't a big fan of Three Philosophers? Geez! That was the first one that caught my eye! And Chimay!!! Nectar of the Gods!!! My favorite brews, however, are the lambics

 

I'll second everything you said above except for the part about not taking sikes during times of emotional turmoil. I find that it's sikes and sikes alone that help significantly in the healing process, and what better time to take such a medicine than when under the gun of life crisis? It can be a gamble, but methinks generally a calculated risk whose benefits outweigh any potential negatives.

 

Porkstock, those looked like some awesome brews! You try each of them??

I drank a beer called golden monkey this weekend..was like 9.8% or something, it had a spicey taste to it haha. Oh and dogfish head is pretty good too!

 

do you find this to be true for mescaline? have you taken medium-high doses of it?

it was good, just a little too strong for my tastes. i like smoother beers, because i'm usually smoking weed as well, and a dry mouth to me does not go that well with a think 10% beer. but one is still good in the right circumstance.

i have puked from 2ce one out of the 20 or so times i've taken it.

i tried them all yeah. my faves were valentine's, pinkus organic hefe, and the Witte. i only had one of each, since that store sells singles, i like to try a wide variety.

i've had golden monkey before too. not bad, but not my favorite either. same for dogfish head

 

I find phenethylamines equally as entheogenic as tryptamines but on the whole phens are often easier trips.

Tripping so hard on mushrooms that I can't even speak a sentence correctly, with a bunch of jumbled thoughts or taking dpt and getting swept up in fractals and witnessing little cartoon characters then basically suffering amnesia, I find less useful in my spiritual and/or psychological progression than doing a dance off at a rave on MDMA and feeling my soul or aura connect with a complete stranger or taking some mescaline and actually having an extremely lucid awareness to appreciate the beauty in nature and the amazing accompanying feel of the trip.

As far as 2cx's go, I agree they tend to feel synthetic but almost all of them have given me pretty meaningful experiences that go beyond recreation, 2cp may be the exception.

I've had amazing entheogenic experiences with those two tryptamines as well but it varies from trip to trip and I don't think tryptamines can substitute for phenethylamines and vice versa.

 

^^^holler at your PEAs!

 

I agree with your first point. I've had more beneficial experiences with phens than with trypts, though that could be due to the fact that I've had many more experiences with phens than I have with trypts.

I disagree with your second point though. I've had some VERY difficult phen trips, while all of my tryptamine experiences have been very smooth, even the very intense ones. That's just me though.

 

I agreed with TNS.

In my case tryptamines seems to be a much smoother trip as opposed to phenethylamines. I seem to thrive more with tryptamines. But I don't dislike phenthylamines, it's just a very different trip... like oranges and apples

 

Most the tryptamines I've done are the über intense, short lasting ones. Dpt is much more rough than any phen trip ive had especially without the aid of Xanax and 5-me0 dmt was pretty difficult. Most people here think mushrooms is a harsher psychological trip than LSD. I dunno, have not really had too many smooth tryptamine experiences except 4-ac0 dmt and moxy.

Perhaps more 4 ho/ac0 subs may change my mind.

 

lol I suspect this was directed at me:tongue: The night I dosed my DPT was a fluke. I was on a shitload(SHITLOAD) of xanax already, and had no intention of dosing my DPT, but it was just sitting there looking at me, and I suddenly got the impression that it would like to take a journey through my nostrils. It was a waste, yes, but I blame that on the fact that xanax makes me want to take every drug I can get my hands on. I look back on that night with great regret

 

If you cannot speak from too much Mushies then your just doing too much. Haven't you ever done too much MDMA? Turns you into a gibbering gurning e-tard and also gives amnesia and weird trippy effects.

 

It's been a mixed bag for me, it all depends upon the substance. 2ct2 has put me in some difficult headspaces, but so too has 4 aces. I suppose that if you're a hardhead (like me), then that's bound to happen once in a while whether it's a trypt or a phen, trust me, take enough of *any* sike and you go into some strange, strange places within your brainz.

"Got a flip-top pack of cigarettes in her pocket
Feeling good at the top
Shopping in sharp shoes
Walking in the sunshine town -
feeling very cool
But the butchers and the bakers in the supermarket stores
Getting everything she wants from the supermarket stores
Apples and oranges
Apples and oranges"

I've had at least one really difficult experience with mushies, but that was when I ate nearly an ounce, man that was a strange fuckin' night...

I don't know so much about the amnesia thing, but yesterday when I consumed nearly 400mg of mdma in under 24 hours, I lost time here and there, but I never lost myself. I did have difficulty communicating though, almost a complete communication breakdown for a few hours at one point, but shit dude, you just ride that out and all's well.

The only time any sike has given me amnesia is when I took some acid one night, I was really tired, so I laid down and went to sleep, and right about the time that I was peaking, I woke up with no memory of who I was, where I was, what I was, or anything at all. I had to navigate around my room, touch everything and work very hard to conjure up memories of what my environment meant to me, and this went on for a little over 30-45 minutes before I could even remember my name, haha! Then once I was okay, I sat down and played video games for the remainder of the night

 

I have... I'm not sure what your point is? Not every phenethylamine trip for me is a spiritual entheogenic experience either.

 

I heard you saying that Tryptamines can just fuck you up so you get nothing out of it then said that Phens you have a more clear experience n mentioned MDA so i just thought i'd point out that they do the same thing to be honest if you do enough.

I find it much easier to overdo MDxx than Tryptamines as well, dunno why.

 

I wrote they are equally entheogenic for me, quit trying to hear me and start reading me

I don't know what you mean by overdo but 50-100 mgs of MDMA is a much larger window for error than 10-20 mgs of 4-ac0 dmt, so I dunno why either. If you mean in a moreish sense then stay away from MDMA if it dont work for you, some of those combos ive seen you post are kinda playing with fire as is.

But moxy and from what I've read amt have just as much potential to overdo in the same vein as MDMA.

 

Possibly. I remember when I was just dating my gf for a few weeks and I broke up with her over a (now i realize) stupid reason. I went home and dove right into a 2c-b dose. It was purely escapist, and thankfully the dose was gentle and beautiful. Actually that was my first time with 2c-b. But I feel if I had say, eaten a few g's of mushrooms, I would have been curled into a ball crying as my every minute fault was thrown in my face with the force of the big bang.

my mom just had a hysterectomy for cancer, which is a level of distress and stress on my system I have never before experienced, so I have days where I know it wouldn't be smart to dose today. I wouldn't learn anything I don't already know, and it would be highly unpleasant. Better to integrate life sober sometimes. I don't want to be in a state of strong depression and anxiety (which I have been the last few weeks) and jumping into a trip that asks of you a strong and balanced mind. There's a limit for me, after which I will say "no trip for me today, thanks".

No only what I presume is a low-medium dose, which was MDMA-esque. Future mescaline assays await Even at the low dose though it was quite beautiful and "spiritual". In the same sense that MDMA creates a sense of "togetherness" with the people in your life, cacti seems to create a sense of "togetherness" with all of nature, every blade of grass and wave in the water. It's like MDMA, but less in your face, more gentle, less "fake" . . . I look forward to a high dose in the future.

Guerr I know what you mean about phens being more useful in your spiritual/psychological development. Tryptamines are sometimes WAY TOO FAR OUT THERE for any kind of remotely sane sober-life integration. Like, ok, now I understand that the universe is a giant neuron currently squirting out my subjective experience into the great synapse of the void (which is a thousand-faced goat playing a drum made of flesh and a bone flute) . . . now what? lol.

 

If you don't mind me asking, what's the next step? I've been wondering.

 

biopsy of the growth and if its indeed cancer then chemo/radiation/further surgery

 

Well I'm crossing my fingers for you and your mother Keep us updated, if you can.