Psychedelic Bump IV

chime.. K might be like chloroform. when first you use chloroform it will drop you the first time or 2.. after that, each time you inhale it. you will see visions much like Dmt or K where there is an interactive screen of events going on.. but you cant doing nothing about it..

 

So will chloryl hydrate. I was literally prescribed mickey fins for a while

 

Just got really lucky today and actually made a custom mix of Dream Herb, Blue Lotus, Pink Lotus, White Lotus, Wild Dagga, Intoxicating Mint or Wild Lettuce (whichever is easier to come by), and either Spearmint or Peppermint for flavoring and
JWH-081, 122, 203, 210, 250, 251 and 5-MeO-DALT at about 35mg/g in what I'm calling personally Molotov Cocktail, hehehe

Should be a nice changa with my deem batch!

EDIT: mescaline, 2c-e, & miprocin is a serious headfuck oh my gosh!

 

seems like you have a death wish, cosmo

 

I felt this way when I started my psych journey. However, I felt after taking ecstasy tabs back in high school I pretty much knew what MDMA was about. I was wrong. Molly is so very beautiful, it's one of the most useful and powerful drugs I've come across. It's something I will always look out for, and I'm very grateful I've got to try it this last year. Trust me man, haha you should always keep an eye out for it.

Also, I forget, did you end up dosing alone?

Hey, sounds like my experiences! :sunny: I've only done 175mg at one time, no more, and I was completely satisfied each time. That range is beautiful to me, and especially highlights the therapeutic value in this chem.

Very cool, glad to hear it. :2thumbsup:

 

How does molly differ from Ecstasy for you? Ive experienced subtler physical effects and its more chilled out but nothing drastically different than that. I almost always need to boost molly with caffiene when i take it out to make it more ecstasy like.

I haven't done 175 mgs so that may be pretty similar to 200 mgs but it boggles my mind here that people seem so conservative with MDMA dosing but won't hesitate to ingest 60 mgs 2ce or 200 mgs dpt.

I said this in another thread and I think there is a slight truth to it but perhaps my view on the issue is not spot on either but I look at erowid doses for MDMA and I think its extremely low, I think the doses should resemble mescaline more. The MDMA doses to me seem like they almost factored in that MDMA usually comes in ecstasy that can be cut and not very accurate of the pure chem. I dunno but I went to 2 pills after my first roll which would put me on the heavy spectrum of erowid dosing and that doesn't sound right. I've known people to eat 10 pills and live to tell the tale with all their teeth intact. 150 mgs MDMA was a very very light roll for me, no doubt it could be good in the way writer used it with his girl, but for the psychedelic exploration of MDMA that's for sure on the light side.

I don't find a drastic difference in comedown between 150-200 mgs and I accept the comedown as part of the trip when I do have it, its the yang to the yin of the roll.

Mescaline:
light: 100-200 mgs
common: 200-300 mgs
strong:300-500 mgs

I think that is fairly representative of MDMA too, I haven't even tried strong yet, although I have done 3+ e pills before.

 

Quite the opposite, I feel electrically alive and rejuvanated like is so often the case after a mescaline enriched trip, weirdly, even after piling on the other two sikes, it sort of made the character of the mescaline come more alive, but definitely altered by the addition of the mouthful of pills and other two sikes... great night! And I know, I know, that Molotov Cocktail JWH/DALT/narcotic changa mixture may sound crazy, but I guarantee it will be wonderful with my batch of deem. I also can't wait to get my bees, my t7, moxy, foxy, aMT, MXE, DOC blotter, and I can't remember the rest... I had an excellent night though, don't know where you'd get the idea that I'm suicidal??? I love life or I wouldn't even touch sikes!!! They're part and parcel in some regards in a weird way, I'm sure you can relate, right? If not, hrmmm, how to explain.....

I'm a happy camper? Yeah, that does sum it up

 

Molly is so chill for me, I can lounge and smoke a bowl and feel super stoned and euphoric. With ecstasy I would always feel too amped up and speedy, even when smoking pot, which is not really my style. I had fun back in those days, but I much prefer rolling with Molly. The comedown is a lot easier as well. And besides maybe an energy drink, I wouldn't add caffeine to the mix. I have a huge tolerance to caffeine anyways so that doesn't really add much.

I definitely hesitate to do 200mgs of dpt! Haha, I've still only done 50mg. And 2ce, well the 2c's just seem to be my cup of tea. But for whatever reason, I find MDMA really satisfactory at the 150mg level and rather further explore other chems for now. Next time I try it I imagine I will do at least 200mg though, at the beach .

Ya, you have more experience to comment on what suggested doses should be on sites like erowid. I like being on the lower end of the spectrum for once. Usually I am on the high end haha. Erowid commonly has low doses though, I don't really give them much credence. I prefer trip reports and I usually base a lot of my dosage levels off what I read on this site and bluelight.

 

arty:

 

Thanks guys, I am so happy She covered my room in dragonfly shaped blue lights, drew art on my body . . . you should see the kind of art she draws, one of those people you've got to ask "are you SURE you've never taken a psychedelic?"

So, 25mg MXE. Holy smokes folks. I told myself last night vigorously that I would write a TR but you know, it's actually not going to happen. Much of the experience is lost to memory, it's like it never happened, like it was a dream, and I found cannabis did not mix well with it, for the same reasons i don't think ketamine mixes well with it (except in very small doses). it just made me nauseous and spinny and the whole experience is already so intricate and cerebral, ya don't need heady nugs fudgin up your mindspace any more. So I will snort 50mg next time and not smoke pot and lie down naked in bed to shpongle or something ala my ketamine routine.

For now I will just say that it was in some sense way more psychedelic than ketamine, reminded me of DXM a little, but incredibly different from both. It gives you the opiate "fulfillment", the dissociative cognitive effects, and it's own incredibly unique brand of insights and experiences.

The Big and Dandy thread at bluelight has page after page of just perfect commentary on this one, if you are interested for now I really recommend that thread. They are always good, the DPT one is fantastic too. Some really great discussions and comments from great minds.

I cannot wait to give this one another go! Very excited, I see this one becoming scheduled EXTREMELY FAST. It's WAY too good to be legal.

 

Have you tried 4-MEO-PCP by the way? i'm very interested in MXE now, i was anyway but even more so.

 

i only had one dose, so i was the only one that dosed, but i was with my fiance for most of the time, and spent a little time with a friend smoking weed

 

No, even though I've been sitting on a gram for months . . . just hard to schedule a trip that long, and when i do find time for something that long, well, 4meopcp is at the bottom of the list

 

Next weekend, Molly and maybe some more 2C-B? Gonna try to get some more acid though.

 

Just cos 4-meo and mxe are the UK big legal dissociatives atm and i want opinions on which is better.

 

4-me0 pcp was only good on it's own for me via injection, it complimented 2ci nicely though when taken orally. It kind of smoothed out some of the rougher stimulating effects and just made me feel floaty, although I can see potential to get sick on it if you combo too high.

I had a lackluster experience with plugging it but it was also the first chem I ever plugged. I have not taken MXE and i'm not going too until I have tried some Angel Dust first but I think you should go with that one.

 

I didn't want to start a new thread so I thought I'd post here. This thread is
always rockin, even if sometimes the topic being discussed isn't my cup of tea.
I first found HF while surfing around about shrooms and found it to be a
fun and informative place, after weeding through some of the 'chaff'. Though you have to do that anywhere on the webs anyhow.
I think my first post was asking for suggestions for a really positive maybe even mystical, tropical location for a trip. I guess its supposed to happen because the way things fell into place, it must be meant to be.
So tomorrow I'm off for a few days of R&R and bringing along two little packages. 4aco-dmt, 25mg and 15mg respectively. The second is in case I feel like gifting someone or my travel buddy, an ex gf who is still a good and close friend, if she decides to try it. Or, if I decide to do a bump as my first experience with it was really great, but shorter than I would have liked.
As Clint once said, a mans gotta have options.

Some of the 'chaff' I refered to on HF is my personal dislike of disassociatives and the goal of getting messed up for no reason other than to just get wasted. But the truth is, I did alot of that way back and I am no one to judge. From when I was 14 till well into my 20's, I spent a good part of my waking hours stoned, really drunk, or both. So much so that I went 20 years without anything except caffeine and nicotine, neither one of which is very good for you either.
So this recent foray back into psychedelics is intended, or desired anyhow, to be a personal growth thing. And not that I'm not down for some responsible recreational trips, quite the opposite I think I will be doing some of that in the future.
So set and setting should be as good as it gets, and I'm looking forward to a few days off, and thawing out in the sun. (that one's for you Porkstock) Some good food, some mellow micro-beerz, and hopefully a bit more self knowledge and how my piece fits in the big jigsaw puzzle of life.
Peace to you guys, stay safe. :sunny:

 

Thanks, I knew you could put it in laymen's terms for me lol

It's just the drug blowing my perception out of proportion. I've done bad things in my life that I now feel remorse for but I know I'm not really a terrible person. But all together, a touch of paranoia, the cloudy head and the general sense of malaise MDMA causes me, I can't help but feel "accused."

The strange thing is that these issues that get pushed to the surface and amplified by MDMA are things that I am already quite familiar with and accepting of sober or intoxicated on other things. Most of them are things I have already found a solution to. Every time one of these issues comes up while rolling I just feel like I'm flogging a dead horse and I don't feel I'm gaining anything beneficial from examining the same problems over and over in the same old negative light. MDMA just has a way of making me feel... dirty... and not in the good way Contrary to what everyone else experiences, MDMA just has this very pushy and artificial overtone to me. Everything feels forced and cold and insincere, even compared to how I feel sober. I'm naturally a very compassionate and open person and instead of the MDMA enhancing those qualities even further, I just don't feel like myself at all on MDMA.

When it comes down to it, it's just not the right tool for me. I've tried it 8 times now at various doses, drastically different S&S and mindsets and intentions and I get the same negative results each time. I actually did come across a report on Erowid that described similar sentiments to mine and I know there must be others out there, we are just a very small minority. If only science was interested in using me as a statistic...

I also despise beer. I'm just a living anomaly.

P.S. - I'm so happy for you Writer! and thanks for the tidbit about the MXE, that's next on my list as soon as finances allow.

 

Thanks SB

Bump for 12mg MXE sublingual. and bump for reading through the whole second big and dandy thread for this one (there are two full B&D threads about methoxetamine already, it is supreme)

this one is gonna be schedule one, watch. it feels serotonergic, dopaminergic, GABAminergic, cholinergic, opioid . . . it feels like a stimulant, depressant, dissociative, classical psychedelic, delirient, anti-depressant, opiate . . . . it can be taken any possible ROA, is far more potent than ketamine, lasts like 4 times longer, apparently mixes fantastically with many things, and yet is dangerous enough that there have already been MANY hospitalizations on it, mostly from people completely losing control during high doses. Psychedelic+dissociative+delirient+stimulant+not experienced = trouble

 

I remember looking at this while on 2c-e with a buddy sometime last year.. the dog looks smug in the first picture with its fluffy fur coat, then when the coat is gone he just looks like some sort of alien.