Psychedelic Bump II

Ah, devil ketamine. it makes you behave like the village drunkard in some early Irish novel. Total loss of all basic motor skills. Blurred vision, no balance, numb tongue, the mind recoils in horror, unable to communicate with the spinal column, which is interesting because you can actually watch yourself behaving in this terrible way but you can't control it.

 

when i tried a small amount, i felt like my head was located at belly-button level, and when i stood up it felt like i was still laying down. drunk in a "trippy" way
no desire to do it again

 

just the fact that it is a chemical cousin to PCP is enough for me to have no desire to experiment with ketamine. Too many bad experience memories from my youth with PCP.

 

Its like coke for me, if its present and offered in front of my face no way am I turning it down but no desire to go through the hassle and often shady people I have had to go through to buy it.

 

Haven't you only done 75mg? I do that at work and cash customers out. Ketamine like all dissociatives has "plateaus" of effects, and it would be a shame if you were to close the door on this one after experiencing the first plateau or 2 out of many.

Considering the psychedelic potential of ketamine is unlocked at ~250mg I wouldn't pass judgement yet until this is experienced. Foot in mouth syndrome will soon follow, I guarrantee.

Guerilla, l2ketamine

for real, so much hate, all because people treat it like cocaine and just abuse bump after bump. Much better to rail a proper dose, take the journey, and put it away for later.

Considering it's use in psychology, psychiatry, medicine, and it's place in the hallows of wrote psychedelia, I am surprised to see this much negative attitude towards beautiful ketamine. She takes practice to understand and she is addictive. Moving past these facts, growth awaits.

 

Well this maybe one of those chemicals where it truly effects individuals differently writer:

There was no growth in ketamine for me if anything it sent me backwards in spiritual and entheogenic development.

Perhaps I'm just not intellectually suited to truly understand and utilize ketamine and I no doubt agree the k hole is an interesting experience to say the least.

For me the compulsion, necessity and excessiveness of my abuse of it was in the drugs nature and my personal response. Maybe you do not understand because you react differently writer but this is 'heroin' to me. It giving me shakes right now 8 months down the road of abstaining from it and I have no choice but to view it negatively otherwise I'm going to go back to it and its going to become a battle lost. I am far more happier without it and people said I was a different person while on it.

 

I will admit my position is ill informed with specific regard to ketamine. But really my past experiences with dissociatives have left such a bitter taste in my mouth I have no desire or curiosity to experiment with any others. I almost killed myself with an OD of PCP. The last time I ever did any I was high for 3 days. Not a pleasant high either. Those type of things will tend to leave a person jaded.

 

like i said if you can get over its addictive nature and control your use it is a powerful tool of cognition. abuse it and it becomes a vector for abuse. it's that simple. hell MDMA is non-addictive and yet many use it as a vector for abuse; this does not belittle MDMA, only the abusers.

taking repeated bumps of ketamine to maintain the 'drunken' level is a self-fulfilling prophecy of disappointment and pain. by continuously titrating sub-critical amounts, you are creating the necessity to continuously titrate, and are never at critical amounts, so lose-lose. How you approach it as the first step will determine your last step.

i'm hearing lots of closed doors but no attempts to jiggle the doorknob differently

 

i wouldn't even do a free line of coke. ketamine...maybe

i don't have to look behind EVERY door.

 

I now understand why so many people on this forum see mephedrone as a dirty drug. It is definitely quite addictive. I feel fortunate that I have a large amount of self control. I can see how other people would not be so lucky with casual use of the substance.

 

actually I was mainly using k hole doses writer, the drunken sub k hole doses had little to no interest to me.

I used to admire the dark edge ketamine had as some sort of polar opposite to the light and joyful edge I experienced under LSD, mushrooms and MDMA. It really just became the focus of my day and yes the k hole became a fix, just like the lower doses. Somewhere along the lines I also rediscovered Salvia and the 2nd time around I found it too has an extremely dark edge and felt more complete than ketamine except for the brevity. Even some of the phens like 2ct2 and some say 2ce have dark energies at high doses so that has kind of gave ketamine no more appeal to me.

 

guerilla thanks for talking to me last night. I needed someone to talk to lol I was getting lonely waiting for the rest of my friends to show up for my party

Everything went well though.

 

yep yep... Did you end up getting into some beer pong or was it mainly a roll party?

 

Don't you want to?

 

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=6472123#post6472123

First LSD TR finally, only a week later

 

no

 

why not? don't you want to completely explore your reality? Where is your infinite spirit of scientific inquiry?

 

no one can experience EVERYTHING. do you plan on trying every drug known to man?

 

Nah i was rolling to hard. I just danced and played with some glow sticks. I ended up getting laid by this chick which was AMAZING.

Took forever to get a hard on though =\

I feel fried though. Refreshed like physically but mentally fried.

I think im going to take a little break lol. Everyone that tried my new bag loved it though.

 

You can try....why not?