Protest Islam

Discussion in 'Protest' started by ELIYAHU, Sep 13, 2008.

  1. mai

    mai Member

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    this is not true. though Islam was much more tolerant than Judaism and Christianity - it was only tolerant towards Jews and Christians . That's why there are still Jews and Christians in Muslim countries. However it was especially intolerant towards Buddhism , Hinduism and several Iranian local religions. Buddhism virtually disappeared from North India , Pakistan and Afghanistan after the Muslims arrived - before that it was the major religion there. Buddhism survived in small enclaves in Indonesia and Malaysia but only in remote areas (most modern Buddhists in Indonesia and Malaysia are fairly recent immigrants from China).

    Having said that , boycotting Islam is a ridiculous idea
     
  2. Elijah

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    pardon me for actually demanding physical proof for something. rather than just taking people at their word. especially when it's illegal in 19 countries to question this specific historical event. meanwhile evn those considered experts in this area of history opftentimes conflict with each other about all this. piles of emaciated bodies don't prove anyone was gassed, let alone put into ovens.zyklon b has a flash point of around 70 degrees farenheit, so imagine what it would do when subjected to oven temperatures. so where'd all the extra bodies go to? anyways, back to wether or not it's okay to speak out about islam.

     
  3. Elijah

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    if that's the case, you must be a zeppelin.

     
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  5. polecat

    polecat Weerd

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    You're right. I wasn't informed about any of Islam's interactions with non-monotheistic religions. Though scribe would still be spared if the muslims took over because he is jewish(or christian? :confused:).
     
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    WHY CANT WE ALL JUST BE HUMAN BEINGs? :(
     
  7. neodude1212

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    b/c I'd rather be a squirrel..

    except when it rains. that'd be terrible. :(
     
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    Thats when I wish I was a duck..:)
     
  9. Elijah

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    it's too bad those three faiths have a shortage of moderates.
     
  10. The Scribe

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    I am an Anglican.
    http://www.anglicancatholic.org/about.html
     
  11. The Scribe

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    So, you do believe in Holocaust denial. How do you account for the thousands of first person accounts by Holocaust survivors and the soldiers who liberated them? How do you account for the photographs and movies of the death camps? How do you account for the fact that Auschwitz commandant, Rudolf Höß testified at the Nuremberg Trials that three million people, mainly Jews, were killed at Auschwitz, and that he gave a detailed explanation of how they were killed?
     
  12. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Nobody denies the Holocaust happened. There is ample evidence that a large atrocity took place.

    There is some doubt as to the final death toll however.

    It must be remembered that many left that land when the getting out was good. Went to other parts of the world less hostile. Changed their names. Tried to blend in. They are likely counted among the unaccounted for. As no trace of them remained after the nazi plague had run it's course.

    At any rate, the "Holocaust Industry" in Israel earns it's respect in the US by gathering sympathy for their suffering at the hands of others.

    They are rather silent about the long and bloody history of their encounters with their neighbors, and the cilivilans killed in acts of state sponsored war crimes. There too, is ample evidence of wrongdoing that violates international treaties.

    Were it any other country besides Israel, the US would come down hard and heavy over their long history of human rights violations.

    The silence that comes from the US in regards to Israel is alarming. A world superpower transfixed by something much smaller than itself. It dances in unison with it's snake charmer friend. Swaying as it sways.

    You have to ask yourself what is the real threat. Is it the fist, or is it the mind that tells the fist what to do?





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  13. Elijah

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    how do you make moot scientific evidence that suggests that more prussian blue residues were found in the delousing chambers than in the room used as a supposed gas chamber? or the fact that the international red cross interviewed numerous cmap inmates and all reported them to be in good health? or the many camp inmates who claimed to have never seen or hear anything about gas chambers? including paul rassinier photographs of emaciated bodies certainly don't prove that people were gassed, let alone put into ovens

    what of the the fact that these camops used coke as a fuel? which would have made burning millions of bodies in the middle of wintertime in Poland impossible. Polands winters are extremely wet and cold. coke is coal with the volatile oils removed, if it gets damp or wet it will no longer burn. Also what about the claims that diesel engines were used to gas people to death during the holocaust? diesel fuel has too much oxygen in it to be worth using as means of killing anyone, let alone millions of people. by the way, rudolph hoss's confession was obtained by means of torture in case you didn't know. go take your ideas of jewish supremacy elsewhere bub, they have no place in any discusiion of world history.

    by the way, even deborah lipstadt knows th stories of shrunken heads and lamp posts are nonsense. i say holocaust promoters should put their money where their mouths are and take these bars of soap, heads and lampshades to independent labs for forensic testing. :)

     
  14. The Scribe

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    Do you believe everything you read? I doubt that any of those presumed "facts" are true. If any one of them is true, I doubt that it has any significance.

    I agree with you that holocaust denial should be legal because truth is the best antidote to lies.

    If the holocaust did not happen, the effort to convince the world otherwise involves a massive conspiracy. The thousands of eye witnesses lied. The photos and movies were fabricated.

    Auschwitz commandant, Rudolf Höß lied at the Nuremberg Trials when he said that three million people, mainly Jews, were murdered at the death camp he was in charge of.

    I cannot believe that, Elijah. I cannot believe in a conspiracy involving thousands of people and lasting for decades. Someone will leak information to the press, have a death bed confession, or get drunk and brag to his girl friend or wife.

    Conspiracy theories are believed in by people who want to believe something for which there is only the flimsiest evidence, and who want to demonize a group of people.
     
  15. The Scribe

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    Read the rest of this thread. Elijah does deny it. :eek::p:rolleyes:
     
  16. Elijah

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    can't you just debunk the things i say without resorting to attacking my character? of course you can't, you don't see me make insults towards you sir. i demand more proof for this example of exageration, that's all.
    especially since six million bodies, nor the remains of six million bodies were never found. yet, you refuse to address this obvious fact.


     
  17. Elijah

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    i'd say the holocaust is more of a conmspiracy theory than questioning it is sir. see, you resort to attacking my character. rather than trying to debunk anything i've said. :) do YOU believe everything YOU read sir? you seem to believe everything holocaust promoters say. NO, if i believed everything i read i would refrain from questioning this sillyness(holocaust). rudolph's confession was obtained by torture, this is well known. therefore how can you automaticly believe such information? its easy to get someone to admit to something when you physially do harm to them in order to get them to talk. but this is america afterall and Bush and his friends seem to think torture is just fine and dandy.

    yes, people died at these camps. but i never said they didn't, i'm just questioning the reported numbers and the ways in which they died. forensic evidence of many more parts per million in a small delousing chamber than in a room said to have gassed millions is NOT flimsy evidence sir. why do you ignore this? red cross documents saying only a little over two hundrred thousand seven hundred bodies total being found is NOT flimsy evidence sir. using scanning devices to look into the soil and taking soil samples and finding NOTHING to indicate that the ground was ever excavated in order to bury bodies is NOT flimsy evidence sir.

    but i supose if you repeat the mantras "never again!" and "six million died" enough times it'll magicly happen as they say it did. even though there are many things to suggest it didn't happen like that. but what does forensic evidence know? more than some impressionable people who base their arguements solely on emotion know and bullying know. have a nice day day sir.



     
  18. The Scribe

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    I counted 32 errors of spelling and grammar in what you wrote. As soon as you learn what you should have learned in high school I may consider your reasons for believing in holocaust denial conspiracy theories.

    Rudolf Höß was beaten during interrogation, but he had many opportunities to retract his confessions at the Nuremberg Trials if they were false.
     
  19. The Scribe

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    How can one count cremated bodies? Cremated remains have been found. Mass graves have also been found of bodies that were not cremated.
     
  20. Elijah

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    [nope, because none of the camps soil has yet to be excavatted. they have yet to dig up the soil at any of these camps. you are either a liar sir, or have been blatantly mislead. try again. by the way, bones don't burn in ovens. therefore you could count the skeletal remains.

    quote=The Scribe;4743217]How can one count cremated bodies? Cremated remains have been found. Mass graves have also been found of bodies that were not cremated.[/quote]
     

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