Protect your freedom aganist Communism

Capitalism is based on individual merit and hard work. And you're right, I don't want to cooperate with people that refuse to be productive members of society. Almost every last person in this country has the ability to make as much out of their life as they choose. I will never believe that the whole system is wrong just because a few fall through the cracks.

Keep the government out of my life. How anyone could want the state to control virtually every aspect of life and society, I don't know. Yea, go ahead and hand over your life, your culture and all your earnings to a government that will squander it. Sounds perfect to me.

I do not believe that there will be free hand outs for everyone under communist rule. There will only be an equal share of poverty and misery.

Does history mean nothing to you?

 

You actually think that our capitialistic society keeps the government out of our lives? Pfft....

 

who says we live in a pure "capitalistic" society...don't think it exists here in the states....

 

Our capitalistic corporations probably know more about us than the gov't does. Talk about the ultimate invasion into privacy...Visa probably has a bigger rap sheet on you than all gov't agencies combined. The feds aren't monitoring my internet traffic, but I'm sure there is some spyware hiding somewhere on my computer that is.

 

Im an experimentalist and its not like communism hasnt been tried. The problem seems to be not so much theory (although I am a sceptic of this also) but peoples selfishness. In communism you are very suscepable to people gathering around a leader and that person taking over. This seems to happen and suggests to me that however good the theory may or may not be its largely irrelevant because human behaviour acts against it anyway. Communism puts human society into an unstable state, society will then move to stabilise it over a time dependant on the power of the single leader.

 

big buisness and big government eventually merge into one
mussolini called it corporatism (i think)
ask lockheed martin.

 

I am not saying I am a communist. I hate large governments, there is nothing I despise more than our own bloated bureaucracy - and we are a capitalist society!

I just think that capitalism is no better than communism - except for the people on top. Both forms of gov't expect people to be better than they are, and so to me are inherently flawed.

But if one thinks they will have more privacy under capitalism than under communism they are foolish.

 

Dont be born poor, don't have social security, don't take out a home loan, don't finance a car, don't get laid off, don't get married, don't get divorced, don't have accidents, don't have medical problems, and then maybe we can all live in your utopia.

 

Maybe you've heard of red light cameras that can scan your liscense plate and send you a ticket.
They have similar cameras that can recognize your face and connect it to a file, so they know if you go to Target and then Ralphs.
Soon they could make a Minority Report situation where you have cameras that know where you shop, so they advertise to you personally, know where you go, what you're interests are, etc.
This could be useful but I already hate the mass advertising we have in the States, so I'd prefer this didn't happen.

Capitalism and Communism are both jokes to control masses. The answer is a combination of both, and yet neither of the two.
It's on the way.

 

the capitalist, or more correctly, the protestant ethos of hard work and wealth is not really the same thing as the vast corporate economic system that we see running the world today. i agree with you about initiative and working for your goals etc, but i don't believe that this freedom to do so and get rich should come at the price of creating so much misery and suffering for the majority of the world's population, which is what is happening now under corporate capitalism. economic success is contingent on keeping billions of ppl in a permanent state of poverty to serve as a cheap pool of labour for the manufacture of all the techno-gadgets and consumer items we in the rich countries enjoy. capitalism has some advantages: it has brought us modern conveniences and great labour saving devices and a decent standard of living for many people, it's just that the distribution of the wealth this generates is highly unequal and the logic that propels it: ie unlimited growth, is destroying all the world's natural resouces which are not infinite. its logic also relies on war as a means of economic expansion. the world is in such a terrible state because of runaway capitalism that it would be wrong to say that as a system it has succeeded, imho. and any wealth that i acquired on the basis of economic slavery would be difficult for me to enjoy without choking on. but that's just me. personally i'd rather concentrate my efforts in supporting an alternative. as far as i can see the only alternative today is what they are doing in venezuela: which is a curious mixture of liberal capitalism, socialism and anarchy. statist communism didn't work but other alternatives like the venezuelan experiment are eminently feasible.

 

you, all that exists, where have u been, love? we've missed u.

 

Not neccarily, there are communist that are for de-schooling that mean the student learns on their own terms, also de-centrialized communism (aka Bakunism aka Anarchism) would mean only your local goverment knows that information.

Bakunin was part of the first International and mostly agreed with Marx but thought it should be de-centrialized, thus Anarchism is just a branch of communism.

 

so tell me, when you're soooo clever, what should I judge it by? :H

 

I would worry more about our own god dam goverment than communism at this point. Long after the collapse of Mother Russia it seems like our own goverment got worse. Gun Control, Ruby Ridge and Waco texas.

 

You keep defending communism cause you really don't know what happens when communism comes, Countless people have died already and many will die if we don't do anything about this goddamn plague.. I saying to fight aganist them, CAUSE they keep poisoning the minds of ignorant people already.. Janaxgirl knows what i mean, Cooloner doesn't and that makes sense, I wish all the people could same with Jana...

 

No one in 2005 would take her serius . we know Russia Communism Fail . and it had plenty of time to fix all the bugs since the russian revolution started in early 1900s it Fail 60+ years later .

 

If rep still existed, I would give you some. You are quite right, your position in life is your responsibility to determine, as I said in another thread, nobody inherently deserves anything beyond what they can attain for themselves..

 

Sorry Capitalism has a much higher death count, maybe it is you that don't know what really happens under Capitalism.

Capitalism has failed the people for much longer. Infact money is the root of poverty, it is a evil invention used to trick workers to enrich the owners because said owners are too lazy to work.

 

Well we all know Stalin kill more russians "20 millions" and in few sorrounding countrys other millions.

 

oh yes, why don't you tell me about the millions of lives capitalism has taken?

Laziness is the root of poverty, socialism promotes lazyness. Capitalism creates a level playing field, we each have the same chance of succeeding...