Proof that God and Heaven don't exist

If you say that other people lack intelligence, then you are the one that is close-minded without any logics and virtually without any intelligence.

You were talking about him, but I have indicated multiple times that I wasnt, so you are the one being ignorant, not reading and the one with a personality like "I am the fucking best here, everybody can suck my cock".

Well mate, if it makes you feel better:
Oh dear sir, you are the master, you are truelly genious.
Your intelligence is astonishing, how could we ever be such fools to say something that prooves you wrong because we could have guessed from the beginning you would not like it and start crying.

You are the one being annoying,
for you do not answer any questions and only whine about the points on which you are prooven wrong... to which you no longer wish to reply because you are afraid of the truth.

And we are not getting anywhere in this topic because of your lack of replying to questions and points made, all you do is bitch about what others say because they are not the same beliefs as you have... it's disgusting.
And now you are starting a fight about who has the biggest cock in intelligence...
Tell you what: I think I am the best around here, I know that even both of you together are no match for my extraordinary powerfull brains.
Anyone else that wants to apply for the most talented here?
Give me a fucking break kids, this is so extremely pointless.

Get a life ignorant hypocrite.

 

"I am the fucking best here, everybody can suck my cock".

Logical Fallacy

 

Ditto.
Fedupamerican and dirtyvibe=anti logic.

 

Dude,
I never ever said that I was smarter than anyone, I was poking fun at Dirtyvibe who said that he was "much smarter" than me, and bragged about his IQ. The only reason I mentioned what I was studying in school was to help you understand that I do know formal logic. My minor doesn't tell you anything about how smart I am.
You keep bitching about no one responding to your points, but I don't see them! Just like you won't go back and read what I have already posted about the real topic here, I don't feel like going back to re-read your points. So if you want me to respond, than make a layout of your basic questions/points, and I will.
I don't think Im better than anyone else here. Thats not the point. At all.

 

this is has been a massive waste of human exsistance you cannot disprove god or prove it, how do you know that what you think you know is real? you dont, you base it on your senses which are faulty, i can not even prove that anyone here is real, all i know is that i can think thats it, 1+1=5, prove me wrong

 

exactly. You cannot disprove or prove God. Its really quite simple.

 

"i say it, it must be true"
good logic dipstick.

 

That is pretty much the entire point of faith "to believe in something that cannot be seen, heard, touched, smelled, tasted"

and how God created everything in 6 days is an infinite time because planets days have longer time periods than others, the bible never specifies 6 world days. thus religion co insides with what the scientists are saying about the creation of the galaxy, sun...

 

Totally disagree. You can spin it however you want, but scientists disagree with your theory of creation. By the way did he create thre whole world in 7 days or was it just the earth?

 

I think it's cute how you guys think this argument is going somewhere.

Side 1 (Believers): God exists, I believe, and the point of God is that he can not be proven.

Side 2 (Nonbelievers): God cannot be proven to exist, therefore he does not exist.

Side 1: You gotta believe. I believe, therefore I am right.

Side 2: I believe he does not exist, therefore, I am right.

Side 1: No.

Side 2: Shut up.

Side 1: Shut up yourself

Side 2: You're a fat head!

Side 1: I know you are but what am I?

Side 2: A fat head!

etc...

 

I just went up to my (Christian) mom and told her I had an invisible friend that could do anything and that he created the universe and decided people's eternal fates. She was worried and told me to get in the car.

 

you're a moron, what do you base your scientific facts on? sensory experience, WHICH IS FALTY, which means everything including science and math and belief in God is a leap of faith so please shut up and do some reading

 

yea acga I don't see how people could miss that point. Science can only explain as much as we can experience with our senses which are falty and limited. But I don't know exactly what you're getting at, or who you're calling a moron.

 

calling that guy a moron

 

And what do you base your faith on?

 

my sensory experiences which no one else can ever understand or feel because no matter how we try to describe a feeling or thought words will never be able to transfer the feeling( for example i could say i feel joy, but what im feeling or thinking when i say i feel joy could be a way different feeling than what you would feel) so based on my personal sensory experience i choose to believe in God, just as anyone would choose to believe in science or math

 

You've framed your proposition in such a way that no one could possibly refute it. You have access to sensory experiences that the rest of us don't have that support a belief in God, and you choose to believe in God on that basis. No problem, as long as: (1) you really believe it and (2) you don't then go on to dispute others' disbelief. The only thing that bothers me about it is that it seems to be essentially a closed system of belief, impervious to reason (logic and commonly accessible evidence). My own beliefs are somewhat similar, except I think they have to be at least consistent with reason. Belief in science and math invlove a certain amount of "animal faith", but there's far more consensus and reliable results to support them.

 

well i dont have access to sensory experience that you dont have, you might very well feel the same things but its just impossible to communicate our experiences, i do not try to dispute other people's beliefs, but for someone to conclude that God doesnt exsist based on their limited sensory experience is falty. they may believe with all their heart the he doesn't exsist but neither they nor I can prove or disprove it. so as you said no one could possibly refute it so its a waste of time to argue about it.also, all your reliable results and experiments are all based on sensory experience, and math, just like God is abstract and it all basically comes down to a leap of faith

 

I've got an idea. Go to the freezer and take out a couple of ice cubes. Then take out a couple more. Then count them. How many do you have?

 

you can not prove how many you have show me 1+1=2 in the world, you can't you can put two apples together but how is that 1+1, what is 1? demonstrate the pythagorean theorem for me? just like how math's rules apply to the real world, but the rules themselves are external, and if you choose to believe in them well thats a leap of faith and lets put that aside for a second, how do you know that you would be seeing two lets say "red" apples, maybe what you call red i call blue? and what you call two i see as 4? you can not know