Pro-life or pro-choice?

The right wing in this country have undertaken three projects; 1. Force abstance only sex education, 2. Make abortion illegal and 3. Eliminate all convient forms of birth control. The goal here is obvious, reverse the sexual revolution.

 

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! That is what I was trying to say, except you said it WAY better and in MANY fewer words! Thank you so much! That was awesome!

 

no i dont consider my chance to be hypocritical. i do belive i made this crystal clear in my first post. i do belive it should be a persons choice its not that i dont belive the choice should exist i just donot belive aborting the baby is the right choice ultimatley. and speaking of choices are you giving that child inside of you a choice? no you are not. isnt that a little hypocritical in and of itself? youre allowed to make a choice in youre life but the baby is not and will never be able to?

 

i agree with that completely. not all girls who unexpectantly get preganant get abortion and fake a miscarage not all of them kill themselves not all of them sttempt theyr own abortion. i speak from expeirence. im pregant right now. under some very bad circumstances. i considered my choices and im not dead on a hotel room floor. i do belive women should have the choice it is the action of aborting a child a donot belive in. i al;so donot belive that the babys life is better sacraficed then the mother. i in no way shape of form belive that i would already die for my child and he is not even born yet. its time that our girls our so called women learn responsability.

 

wow lets not even bring god into this. you think god is pro choice really? you think god is in favor of murder? what do u found this belife on? especially since isnt one of the 10 commandments thou shalt not murder? how in the WORLD do you get to decide what side god is on? do you even read the bible?

 

There are approximatly 850,000 abortions a year, there are approximatly 550,000 children in foster care and there are approximately 150,000 adoptions each year. If Roe v Wade were overturned and a federal ban on abortion followed, what would we do with the children ? Anyone who has experience with the foster care system knows it is already overburdened and doubling the number in the system in a single year would be a bad idea. We could lower the standards for adoption, but even doubling the number of adoptions would not be enough and how low of standards are we willing to go ? Do we really want to bring back wide spread use of orphanages ?

 

Im really stuck on this.

I think many wemon abuse this terribly (obviously) but you also have to think of rape, which changes my perspective completly...a young girl I heard of (about 14 yrs) was kidnapped and raped, she's only FOURTEEN years old...what is she gonna do? Giving birth is putting her life in jepordy because she is so young and her body isn't mature yet. If people were to abolish abortion wemon would take it to extremes and kill the baby in other ways...

I would never take the life of my baby if I were ever to become pregnant, but that is just my opinion...


----> still thinking about it....you guys have made some awsome points!

 

all things in moderation ( wich is another thing from the bible molly sice you seem to be so easily slipping non validated scriptures into this)

 

Fuck the government!!!

 

While I am opposed to abortion as mentioned in an earlier post here, I surely do understand that there are situations where the mother's life could be in jeopardy. I would not expect them to have to face this danger without a say in it. In this case, I see it as protecting the mother's life and physical well-being. There's nothing wrong with wanting to live.

 

I have stuggled with this forever...

something not many people know is that I gave a baby up for adoption when I was 17..

so for me the only option was life... I may not have been able to take care of her.. but I was going to find the best people in the world that could.. and I did...
so most times I am pro life but then there's that side of me that says.. "what if you were raped?" ugh.... cuz I don't know... I don't know what my mind state would be.. I don't know how I would react.. I would love to think I'd carry the baby and give it up for adoption... but then again who knows...

can I say both... leaning more towards pro life...

 

i think that's really beautiful what you did... finding the best home for your child to become its growth potential of cosmic awakening

Kahlil Gribran (he's a mystic philosopher that we as hippies are supposed to like) wrote in his book "the prophet" that children are spirits who appear through us but are not ours and our being a good parent is providing for them to environment to awaken to their cosmic potential

 

I really like that Molly.. thanks...

 

That is an awesome thing you have done! Wonderful that you would want to give your child the best enviroment to grow up in, even if it meant you couldn't provide it!

I agree with Molly, that was a beautiful act of love!

 

I have alway found it interesting that those who oppose abortion seem unwilling to discuss the question of what to do with the extra 850,000 children if Roe v. Wade were overturned and a federal ban on abortion followed.

 

For a long time I thought it was cute how you guys across the pond were still having this debate like it was the 16th century. Then I saw a headline where some preacher was trying to convince me that "abortion is an election issue", and I realise it's not cute or funny at all.

I'm pro-choice, for reasons which I'm sure other people will have already stated, and which the pro-lifers will no doubt have stock responses/dead baby pictures lined up and ready for. It's one of the few issues that I have my mind made up on and which I'm not particularly open to debating. I figure the world's got too many people in it already, and creating a load more kids who will be resented and unloved by their parent(s) isn't going to help matters.

 

The deafening silence on this question is exactly why Roe v. Wade should stay intact.

 

Well obvoiusly those 850,000 children are expected nothing more than to become "productive" members of society (or join the brainwashed working class and make the rich people money). Rich people don't care. Its really the poor people who are the most affected by this issue, and I feel most of them are being mislead or they are unedjucated about the issue and don't take an opinion at all.

Really, if abortion became illegal, every major politician and myself and anybody who can afford a plain ticket to somewhere where they allow abortions wont be affected. Its only the poor people who can't afford to go somewhere else that will be affected.

 

This was in fact the condition forced upon women prior to Roe v. Wade. Women who could afford it, simply went to a state where it was legal, women who could not afford it were either forced into motherhood or had a back alley abortion or tried to do it themsleves. This why I beleive a federal ban on abortion will follow Roe v. Wade being overturned. The right wing in this country will want to close off any chance of a Doe v. Gonzales.

 

Ever read "A Modest Proposal" by Johnathan Swift? I like his idea better.