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Im not trying to argue , but deviate , I have peronally known a few people who had smoked SO HEAVILY for years that they really did seem to have some sort of burn out issue in the brain.
But , I have been told by smokers themselves that its not physically addicting . just MENTALLY addicting , and they smoke everyday.

 

Do you think maybethe issue was more of him STEALING A PUPPY?

 

Smoking any substance - combustion - produces neurotoxins. Carbon monoxide, oxygen deprivation from substituting air with smoke and holding it in - those are what kills brain cells.

Cannabinoids are at no point in their life cycle (active or metabolites), a neurotoxin. I've known a few people like that myself, and something tells me about each one of them that they didn't start out with the greatest brain capacity..

 

Okay seriously people. I don't see a thing wrong with me shotgunning my dogs a hit or two and them feeding them biscuits and running around crazy with them playing with their skeawky weiner dog.
I do it both for their fun (because they obviously enjoy it) and to get rid of my older dog's arthritis in her hip. My dogs always react well, better than they do with their VET PERSCRIBED DOGGIE DOWNERS which knock them on their ass for 24 hours straight...yeah I would rather deal with their anxiety the same way I treat mine, with medical marijuana.
I would type more, but I don't want to interuppt Refer Madness. I've heard it's a great movie. I think it is even more awesome that some of you are reading your old DARE handbooks while watching. multi-tasking is the bomb.

 

I see now what the issue is:cheers2:
I do believe people can and do become addicted to porn - and video games . with side effects, psychological ramifications and detox, and even rehab programs committed to those addictions.
I still think you are out of line and wron for calling people with those problems weak,, by that token i spose an addict of any sort , to any substance is weak to you- and that is a nasty ,neive ,and closeminded thing to toss around.

so apparently we are having a communication misunderstanding about what an addiction is alone.

I do agree that for the most part pot isn't as harmful as many other substances...
but we will hve to agree to dissagree about what addiction is.

 

Ok , Like I said , I really wasnt trying to argue , I was just noting that some do seem to be a little gone after some heavy use over a few years..Im not real up on all the facts of pot use and such , and I admit I dont even use it.
But , Im learning a lot from this thread !

 

damn weak ass people

 

And that's the problem here int his thread. Peoplea ren't differentiating the difference between stealing a puppy and giving it a toke. People are assuming Deviate is talking about heavy pot smokers who toke all day and night long.
things can be in moderation. things can be healthy. if my dog's experiencing anxiety and his sqeaky weiner dog toy, feeding him or some exercise in the backyard don't help I am going to give him the same thing that's perscribed for my anxiety.
When I had a valium perscription I gave our dogs some (knowing what the right dosage is for dogs) on the fourth because of the fire works.
I'm a good pet owner, really good to other people's kids and I am a highly responsible member of society.
I refuse to feel bad because a few people left copius amounts of weed out and allowed their dog to injest it or because people can pull up articles.
I can pull up a muillion articles that say smoking weed will kill humans and it's a bad as crack. We all know that's not true.
I don't mind arguing, but let's take a clue from Deviate and think for ourselves here.
PS Deviate...if I wasn't married you would be in big trouble because I dig the inteligent argument thing and guys with cool dogs.

 

In all of my college courses, addiction was defined as a physical dependence to a substance.
For example, when you smoke nicotine (tobacco) your brain develops a bunch more nicotinic receptors, and when you don't feed nicotine into your bloodstream they begin to 'dry fire'. Over the next few days of abstinence the extra receptors die off, and return to normal levels. This is physical withdrawal.

On the flip side, habits that can become very compulsive and even cause the user to display addictive behaviors, but are lacking the physical element, are called psychological dependency. Ganja use can fall into this category, but the majority of users don't even become compulsive with it. It's simply extremely non addictive for a psychoactive compound.

Even antidepressants and benzos like xanax can cause severe complications if you cut out use abrubtly, such as seizures. But nobody defines these as addictive even though they pop the pills daily without fail. It's a double standard that is false, and irritates me.

 

I am talking about that, haha. I didn't mess around, there were times I smoked an 1/8th a day for months.

And I still was able to stop with no problems, and without going to rehab or any gay shit like that.

 

Not sure why you quoted me , but I can honestly say I really wasnt on here to fight or judge anyone , I even pointed out that it was just my own opinion and that everyone has the right to do what they want with their pets , and that Im not well educated about drugs , since i never used them.
I never meant to step on anyones toes at all , and if I did , Im sorry.

 

Don't be sorry, it's just a discussion.

Cheers :cheers2:

 

How did you afford it? (was that crass to ask?)
That is great that you stopped. I had an ex fiance who was a huge pot head. he smoked abotu an eighth a day. he would sell a house and then instead of getting another listing would buy a pound and do nothing for months.
the market fell and now he';s screwed. I heard he lost his house and truckBut he had other problem's going on. A lot of mental and self-esteem issues.
I guess pot is just like everything else. If you're weak, you're fucked.

 

i need starbucks. please no one go on about caffiene. i promise id on't share my mocha with my dogs unless they accidentally give me whipped cream.

 

Yeah I never let it get in the way of things like that, I was a successful auto tech and getting straight A's at a state university. But I afforded it by growing my own, and a few other things I'll keep out of the public domain

 

Oi matey...

You got pm's you Haven't replied to yet...

 

pshhh Do not blame me for that double standard. I firmly believe most pills are far more addictive than -well almost anything, I know far to many pill heads - and it is a damn shame that people think if a dr gives it to them it is somehow "better" .

People do become mentally and emotoinally addictted to THC, they do suffer mild withdrawls and go through detox. Some research sugests you it can physically addicting qualities as well- but pot hs never been a properly researched subject.

Yes, that is mental and emotional addiction is different than physical, but it can still have terribly side effects and withdrawls,and other psycological addiction related issues- of which again , i know 1st hand.
I still think it is an ignorant thing to call the people that find themselves suffering with emotional and mental addictions to things "weak".

 

that's pretty damn admirable.

 

yeah...that might be because I don't want to talk to you