previous civilizations

yeah the indian writings(can't remember the name) sounds almost exactly like a nuclear war. also there are lots of realy old sunken cities they're finding. and those maps from back in the day that are way too accurate, and they were traced from from previous older maps... they also show antarctica, not covered in ice.

 

man this stuff is so insense atm

 

You're referring to the Piri Reis map:
http://www.mysteriousearth.com/stuff/archives/000002.html

The Indian writing probably being referred to is the Ramanyana(sp?)... and there's far more in there than just a nuclear explosion! I don't know anyone who's ever read it that couldn't at least concede that it sounds like they're talking about UFO's... even Alexander the Great, when he was conquering India, described flying objects attacking them.
The most detailed description I've ever read of a nuclear explosion, from an ancient source, is the Sumerian Enuma Elish, the creation story from which the Biblical book of Genesis is based off of. The story (popularly known as Sodom and Gommorrah) is a great description, ending with a "black wind" that came over Sumer, decimating the population with sickness... sounds alot like radiation sickness, right?

Zecharia Sitchen details a ton of this stuff in his writing, just take him with a grain of salt; he's not the highly educated linguist that he presents himself as; several scholars have challenged his interpretations with no response...

The three societies that all date back to the period of time you're referring to are Sumer, Kish or Kush(India), and Egypt (coming a few thousand years after the other two)...

 

Yeah that's what I was talking about. It seems so obvious that there was a lot more going on then is currently accepted.

 

anyone seen the pictures of the egyptian heiroglyphs that look like different models of airplanes?

 

I find this thread very interesting. Check out the news stories about the biggest asteroid ever passing by earth on Sep 29. That is tomorrow. Are they telling us everything? I doubt it.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/09/28/asteriod.fly/index.html

 

That would be wierd to wake up tomorrow and 1/2 the world is completely gone

 

if that were the case then you probably wouldnt ever wake up

 

How about the bible story of Sodom and Gomorrah? That sounds like nuclear devestation too. In revelations it talks about destruction in the blink of an eye.
There is not enough years in my life to read all the evidence of previous advanced civilizations. Forbidden Archaelogy is an interesting read...........

 

I think you guys read too much into things. Sure, enormous devastation and huge amounts of fire and ashes COULD refer to nuclear war...but they could also refer to volcanoes, earthquakes, large "traditional" wars, or hundreds of other kinds of disasters.

The truth of the matter is that it is EXTREMELY unlikely, if not impossible, that any large civilization which hasn't yet been discovered ever existed. It is absolutely impossible that any large civilization which could be considered technologically "advanced" ever existed. Archaeologists have searched virtually every region of the planet for evidence of previous civilizations. If such civilizations existed, why is there no (or very little) evidence of them?

REAL science is interesting enough. Why buy into pseudoscience?

 

It is absolutely impossible that any large civilization which could be considered technologically "advanced" ever existed. Archaeologists have searched virtually every region of the planet for evidence of previous civilizations. If such civilizations existed, why is there no (or very little) evidence of them?

There is tons of evidence, Kandahar. It is absolutely impossible for you to know whether one did or not. What about the Piri Reis map?
What about the Great Pyramid of Giza, have you studied how advanced it is? For it to have been built by a civilization starting out, is like the first car ever built being a Lambourgini diablo.
I see it totally opposite to you, I see tons of evidence.
Forbidden Archeology is a good read... as I previously mentioned.

 

My sister told me once while we were driving that they've done a lot of tests with different bacterias, and all of them reproduced a lot and reached a peak, then died out. They never just kept reproducing, so they've concluded that we're on the decline, which I'm not gonna lie, is a good thing in my eye.

 

Although it isn't possible to stop pollution entirely, even as a hunter-gatherer (wood fires pollute), standard of living is not dependent on technology (at least it shouldn't be). The Bushmen in the Kalahari have almost no possessions yet rank as high as an american in quality of life. They have a balanced diet (better than ours), good health, low stress, close knit families and friends, etc.

 

Prove it.

 

the reason there is little evidence is simple. all the other evidence was either dismantled by the survivors to build and make other things or it was utterly destroyed by whatever took out this civilization. on the other hand, can you explain away the evidence that supports my idea kandahar?

 

Quote: "advanced" ever existed. Archaeologists have searched virtually every region of the planet for evidence of previous civilizations. If such civilizations existed, why is there no (or very little) evidence of them?


In the mountains of Peru they have found metal, medical tools such as scalpels, scissors, etc.....all virtually identical to modern tools, and all dating back thousands of years. Many civilizations were very advanced...we have expereinced the loss of lots of knowledge over the decades, sometimes reinventing or rediscovering the same old knowledge.

there is even evidence that these people were doing BRAIN SURGERY, they have found sculls with surgical holes in them where the bone has grown back, indicating that some of these people lived 20 years after the surgery.

 

You are correct that the pyramids are evidence of a high-level of intelligence...but no one really regards the ancient Egyptians or Aztecs as backward people anyway. In fact, the reason that they're so popular in history classes is BECAUSE of their technology.

I think it's a stretch to say that this is "advanced" technology (in the sense that we would call it advanced today). True, we don't know exactly how the pyramids were built. But what's wrong with just admitting that we don't know and look for hard evidence, rather than making outrageous speculations and presenting them as facts?

I'm not sure what the Piri Reis map is, so I won't presume its merit or invalidity as evidence of an advanced civilization.

The very idea of "forbidden" archaeology is a bit silly in my opinion...Science is a very open field today. If "advanced" civilizations actually existed (and could be PROVEN), they would be in every world history textbook.

 

all civilzations are doomed after they leave the hunter-gatherer way of life...you start to work against nature and thats when the problems start...and as far as polution goes in that kind of lifestyle the earth can repair the damage we do. its kinda like the same thing as a force of nature killing some of us we get over it in a little while.

 

i dont think any civalation has become machine driven before, Over all we might just have to get off this planet someday, that ,or to fix its current unstable cycle

 

I don't see any basis whatsoever for this... many civilizations that left the hunter/gatherer way of life thousands of years ago still exist today, albeit in a different form.

As for "going against nature," why is this necessarily a bad thing? You mention pollution, and I agree that excessive pollution is bad for us. But a moderate amount of pollution actually improves the quality of life because it brings important products with it.

Anyway, I'm of the opinion that if we end up in a situation where it's man against nature (some would argue that we already are there), man will ultimately prevail and it is nature that will be forever changed. We're already able to control virtually every aspect of this planet aside from natural disasters, and that should be within our capability by mid-century.