Pregnant x ruining my life

This shit is fucked up. This bitch stops taking the pill without his knowledge and decieves him and now he has to "do the right thing" for 18 years while this mental bitch does everything she can to torment him...she will. This kind of shit happens way to often these days. Once a man engages in sex with a woman, everything after that becomes the woman's choice doesn't it?

Maybe father's should sit their sons down and advise them to get vasectomies as soon as they legally can, so we can really cut down on the number of dead beat moms who want to fuck for child support.

Young men should then be advised that it's their bodies and women have no right to tell them what to do with it and therefore do not need to know that they've even been snipped at all.

 

i agree with you that much. if you are not ready for a kid use a condom no matter what the chick is telling you.

 

Its not fucked up to say you take responsibility for your own actions...

If you stick your dick in a chick's pussy, regardless of everything else, condoms, pills, vasectomy or anything else, and a child is the result, you are responsible.

If you don't like that, then don't stick your dick in a chick's pussy.

The little boys of the world like to whine how they were screwed over by chicks and so on... and that is all it is.. .little boys whining...

Perhaps those little boys fathers should have sat them down and taught them about personal responsibility.

As has been said, being a part of your child's life, has nothing to do with the mother... you can hate her with every fibre of your being... don't take it out on the child (or express it around them)...

 

reading about this situation made me recall a story i once came across on the internet:

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/274495936.html

not that i'm advising for every guy to get a vasectomy. that doesn't make sense. if this story is true, this guy knew exactly what he wanted out of life and what not, and maintained perfect control over what was happening in his life. and that is the whole point, to understand what you want and keep your life under your own control. this story, also, is a perfect example that unfortunately there are women out there who will stop at nothing to ruin someone's life, and you should all keep that in mind.

 

from the story;

Funny thing... people who ignore red flags, always seem to think it isn't their fault...

That was a story about one game player clashing with another. He was with her for four months thinking there was something wrong with her, while he wasn't being honest with her.

They are both in the wrong, both for the same reasons... trying to play games with peoples lives.

 

true, he manipulated her just like she did. but under these circumstances i think she got what was coming to her. his manipulation was a self-indulgent joke and a little revenge that didn't cost her anything; her manipulation was set to turn the whole rest of his life into a lie. big difference.

 

What did he accomplish by not being honest with her from the beginning?

He wasted months of both of thier lives, for what?

To teach her a lesson? The only lesson it taught her most likely was to ask the next guy if he was sterile or not first.

It was a game... If you play games with other people, then you have nothing to bitch about when they play games with you... that goes both ways... to him and to her...

It would have served him right if she would have gotten pregnant... as vasectomies are NOT 100% effective.

As for the whole story itself... when I had my vasectomy, the first test afterwards was 6 months, the second was at 12 months... Until then I was told very pointedly not to assume it worked and that even afterwards, to keep in mind, it wasn't 100% for sure. Sorta makes me wonder about the guys whole story.

 

the way i understood it, they were just dating not in a big serious relationship. do you think people should only get into dating with another person if they intend for it to last forever (years)? when you first meet someone and like them and you date, things are kept simple. he did not owe her his whole life story or every single detail about his life. i concede that if she did ask him at some point and he denied it then, then it was a bigger more serious manipulation comparable to hers.

it's not a waste of your life to spend time with a person you like. babies, houses, joint bank accounts only start figuring into it after both have agreed to build a more lasting commitment to each other, and i understand that wasn't the case here.

 

You and I apparently differ in how we define like...

I don't like people I don't trust... and I don't trust people I don't like... And I definitely would NEVER date someone, no matter how casually, that I didn't trust...

Anyone who does, needs to re-examine their self-esteem.

 

I thought vasectomy checks could be all done before 3 months, or at 3 months, give or take, from my reading on it.

I was considering one myself, but overall didn't see a way that didn't involve complications and risk, including incurable chronic pain for life. If they could safely sterilize me without giving me eternal blue balls and severed nerve pain, I'd be all over it.

 

All I know is what I was told and went through.

As for complications or pain? It was 5 minutes at the hospital (could be at a doctors office), then I went for coffee... after the freezing wore off, it hurt to laugh for a couple of days...

Since then... no pain, no difference in sex drive, no difference in atttitude... nothing...

If you already have all the kids you want, (even if that is none) then go get it done... Just be sure... It is reversible... sorta... as time goes on, its less likely to be possible and regardless of that, it's expensive and not covered by most health care plans. That's in regards to the reversal.

 

Well it seems very mixed. Lots of men seem to have no complaints at all, some, for no apparent reason, have horrible pain, and possible pain after orgasm, depending on the type of vasectomy.

What type did you have? I'm still seriously considering it, I just lost some interest with learning about the potential problems, coupled with the lack of any guarantee on effectiveness anyways (I used to know someone conceived after his father had one, in fact).

Also, I don't know that they'd do it on me, here, given my age. My "baby-momma" wanted her tubes tied when she gave birth, and they flat out refused, and gave her some fundie-christian speech about how children are blessings from the lord, and said when she had another kid after 24, or had at least 2 more before then, they'd do it....

 

Lots of men are pussy assed little bitches....

No clue... he made a slit on my bag, reached in with some forseps (or some such thing) and tied some knots... no clue how many or exactly what they did... I have this thing about not wanting to pay too much attention when some guy is slicing open my bag... lol

As for effectiveness... There are odd cases where pregnancies happen afterwards.... they are really really really rare... I've had sex almost daily since, with mulitple women, unprotected, some of them not even on the pill, and no pregancies have happened.

This shit pisses me off when I hear it... You ever have a doctor pull shit like that on you, walk out and tell them to shove their bill (assuming you are in the us...lol) up their fucking asses and go find a new doctor.

 

Little boys? Really? Did you think that the women's movement was just a bunch of whiners too? Should they have just shut the hell up and cooked dinner Tom?

I am 265 lbs of self made man and not only did I take care of my responsibilities but also a child that I did not create. My son is now 11 and his father was a drug addict that signed his rights over to me and the his mother. His mother insisted the child was mine, yet the DNA test that she was strongly opposed to... showed otherwise. The father made these outlandish claims of what he would do to her and the baby while I was standing there. I asked him if he would give him up to me and he said yeah if you want him. Sure enough he did his part to turn him over.

I've been to all his baseball games and helped him with his homework and everything else a father should do and he loves me. My daughter is biologically mine and I take great care of her too. The kids are with me cause mommy developed a drug habit and I left to raise them on my own and we are all doing great.

As for my father sitting me down to explain anything to me, well he tried to kill me on several occasions as a toddler because he did not want the expense of raising a child. He thought the money he worked for should be his and his alone. I found it rather tough to get any advice from him in between ass kickings Tom.

Having said that, I don't fit into your assumption that I'm a whinning little boy, simply because I said something negative about females.

I'm totally gonna stick my dick in many a chick's pussy cause they love it when I do that Tom and I'm man enough to handle what comes after that. Don't doubt it for a second. However, women that fuck for child support or try to trap a man cause they have no skills or education are still scum and I will call it as I see it.

Any men out there that think that it's okay for men to be shamed for not paying or wanting to pay child support but also that men should not even comment in regards to women who just want a paycheck and get pregnant for this reason are not as well balanced and insightful as they think they are.

 

Perhaps you should pull your head out of whereever you have it shoved and re-read what I said.

 

I agree...that reply didn't make a whole lot of sense in context with your quote.

 

My head was shoved into the post where you quoted me and went on to make your comment of little boys whinning about girls screwing them over and taking care of your responsibilites, sticking your dick in pussies etc, to which my reply is still relevant.

The comment I made which you quoted was not about shunning responsibilities but you quoted me anyway and perhaps your comment was directed more toward the OP and not me, it's not very clear really. The guy should take care of the kid but that fact takes nothing away from the subject of woman being slimey in this context.

I mean, to bring a child into this world for your own personal gain and to do it while leading a man to believe that precautions were taken to avoid pregnancy when they were not, is fucked up which was my point. If your whole whinning comment was not in reply to that concept which you quoted me on, then I find myself wondering where your head was shoved at the time?

 

Perhaps this is too complicated for you to understand.

It is your choice of whether or not you stick you dick into a chick... period...

There is a possibility of pregnancy happening from it.

If YOU don't take precautions to make sure it doesn't happen and then you whine about being 'trapped' then you are indeed a fucking little boy... regardless of how many pounds of you is piled up to look like a man...

 

No no, I've digested that and addressed it also but it's not sinking on your end no matter how many posts you pile up trying to sound like the smart one here.

My original comment never addressed the personal responsibilty issue...you still with me?

to which I later agreed with you in a later post that yes he should take responibility...

I simply tried to point out that it is still wrong for women to do this kind of thing no matter what is going on with the man and his personal responsibility...You gettin this?

The issue of men being whiners for complaining of being "trapped" by a woman after impregnating them when they were led to beleive that some form of precaution was taken until she decided to stop and not give him the opportunity to to use another form is subjective...but I still get what you are saying.

I addressed your original point by explaining that I take care of the responsibilities I made for myself as a result of my actions yet and still feel like its fucked up for women to do this. To which you and your friend Kinky Romano wanted to imply that my post was not relevant when it was. At least more relevant to the subject than your response to what you quoted me for, since I hadn't addressed personal responsibility issues at that time, not until you failed to get my point and I had to voice my opinion on that and then try to get back to my original point.

In summary it's still fucked up behavior on a woman's part outside of your whole rant of personal responsibility. I hope that wasn't too complicated for a smart guy like you.

 

This post is a whine about the fact that when a woman gets pregnant, that the man who did it, has to take care of it, regardless of what the woman is like...

Yes, they have to take care of it, regardless of what the woman is like... It was their choice to fuck that woman, it is their responsibility to take care of the child.

To whine about it, makes one a little boy.

It also then goes on to advocate lying, or at least witholding information from a person partner. If you are in a relationship with someone that you feel you need to lie to, or to withold personal information like that, then you are indeed, nothing but a little boy.

This directly addresses the fact that YOU are whining in your post about the fact that a guy has to live up to his responsibility for fucking a woman without taking proper precations to avoid pregnancy. If she gets pregnant, they werent the proper precautions were they?

No, I am not with you, it was all about you whining that guys have to take responsibilty for where they choose to put their dick.

Are you getting that in multiple posts I have repeatedly said that it is wrong for a woman to do it... it has nothing to do with the fact that a MAN is responsible for where he puts his dick.

Yes, it's fucked up behaviour to try to trap a man using his penis, especially when it is targetted at guys who think only with their penis.

It doesn't change the fact that MEN take responsibility for where they put their dick, and little boys whine about it.