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Cheshire.....

You give social workers a BAD name!!!!

We aren't all this ignorant, judgemental, bitchy, and psychotic!!!!

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.....if you even are, in fact, a social worker.....which I find really hard to believe.....

 

I have to say, this comes as a shock to me. While I know that my fiance can be forward and somewhat opinionated, there was absolutely no need for that kind of verbal abuse! That was nothing more than a vicious attack against another forumer which is not only destructive, but is in direct violation of the Forums Guidelines and you have been reported.

I want to clear a few things up here, okay? You're making us sound horrible when you have no idea what is going on. For example:

First off, I might have been laid off, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to have a job. I put in over 5 years at a photo shop until the photo industry took a beating from the digital market, therefore, half of our company got laid off, not because I couldn't hold the job. I did have a bit of bad luck as my next job paid me well and I was great at it. By the way, I''m waking up early on Tuesday to GO TO WORK!!!

As for her taking care of someone without pay, she was taking care of my dying mother!!! If it wasn't for her, my mom would have been stuck in a rest home, waiting to die. Holly took good care of mom and made sure she was content, not to mention it giving them a chance to really get to know each other and talk about the baby. But you're right. That isn't as important as going out and getting a "real job". Well, you don't have to worry about that anymore since mom DIED not even 3 days ago.

Okay, my name is mentioned here and I do not recall having any conversation of the sort. What exactly do you mean by funding method? We are on WIC, but do not receive food stamps nor do we go to the food bank. We have not received a welfare check nor do we have to. I do collect unemployment, but first I had to show that not only did I get a job, but I held it for several years. I was not fired, I did not quit. Was that what you were referring to? We recently started up a savings account with a credit union. Are you saying we're not worthy of a savings account? I don't understand.

Well, I know for a fact that you've never been to my house, so either you are a liar or you're viciously attacking us. Which is it?

Hmm.... We do have a twin bed in the second bedroom, but we don't sleep in that one. We have a full size bed in our own room, which I admit gets a little snug, but we're comfortable there. As for our twin bed, who would we offer space there for? The baby? No, we have a bassinette (sp?) and a crib so far. We also might be inheriting a queen size, so I think we're okay bedwise, but thanks for thinking about it.

Thanks. That's very Rainbow of you. Glad to see that people can still show such love to others. You truly are a role model for us all.

 

What's really funny about all of this is that Cheshire originally freaked out over a typo. The person said they were 20 years old. Well, looking at their profile, it says she's 29. now, 9 and 0 are right next to each other on the keyboard. Is it possible that the finger slipped? 4 kids at 29 isn't as sick, is it?

 

I do have my B.S.W. and my M.S.W., and my Doula licence from the Florida College of Traditional Midwifery.I was typing so fast and sloppy becasue I was laughing at your logic, or that there of. I'm sure I have been to more schooling than you would ever hope to in your life. I am speaking to the ones who are not thinking of the child's future, but the parents own over- weaning egos.
Therapy is not all making nice, telling people they are doing the right thing constantly when they certainly are not. I know of some that should really go. If your therapist says that you are right on track, and have no problems with your brood of kids at your adolescence, they are unethical. You are right. No school for me. I really try and learn off of geniuses like you. F.S.U, for undergrad and Stanford for my Master's with Great Distinction.

So, live in your dreamland all you want. I have seen your kind, and I will keep seeing them as they are waiting daily outside my office. Some of you who don't know me will be there also. You have no idea how many peoople off of this that are in one of the group sessions I run. Over-sexed, under-sexed, emotional upheaval, and irresponsible behavior that allows you to stay far back within your own dreams.

I hope your new babies ae born healthy and you are happy at last with maybe two. Even Bill Gates, the Richest man in the worled, has two children. He will give them everything they deserve. That is what a child needs. And other kids are cruel. IF your child doesn't have the right clothes, they are shunned. I dressed in K-mart things and made the mistake of telling someone where they were from. My child won't have that problem.

Keep procreating, if you feel that is the best and only thing you are capable of. Oh, and about this computer and my typing. I have a secretary who does all of those chores for me. So, making mistakes when talking to you people is nothing to me. Did you go to school past one semester of college? That seems to be the longest of all of you so far, by Holly. Anyone else have ANY education besides high school? Yeah, that's what I thought.

If grinding out more babies is the way to make you feel better about yourself, then try stopping at two or maybe at the top, three. Most should MAYBE have one.

I don't coddle my pts., and they love that. Yu don't even know the population that I work with, but they would be glad to show you around their world. I would love it too. I have won fifteen awards for mental health group facilitation, HIV group and testing, street prostitutes, and those pretty far down on their luck. If you think you know so much, do MY job. You wouldn't even get accepted to do my work. I had a grant passed by the State of Florida as as undergrad. That is unheard of. So yeah, I'm an excellent therapist when they stop living in their dream state and come back to reality . They don't need to be lied to by the kinds of "friends" you are, by encouraging pregnancy after pregnancy, after.........Well, misery loves company, and regardless of how much you protest, I would love to see you have it all on the ball when your brood comes. Now that should be an education in itself.
Children do not only need love. They need doctors and toys, and friends, and room to grow and stretch. I'm sure your little studio will be fine for the first year, maybe. Then you need to look for a more suitable place for all of you,because you will probably be pregnant again!

I have my beliefs, which are based in the grim reality,and you have your own fairy tale in your heads. My knowledge and belief will win out over your unreachable dreams.

Oh, and I don't just show my sonogram to everyone in the room when there are people that don't know about the pregnancy or even care. Most of you will drag it out and say things like,"WE could hear the heartbeat for a little bit,but then it disappeared. This baby is stubborn". Oh, yeah. That is the reason. If the mid-wife told you you had a stubborn baby who hides is heartbeat, you need someone else. I think you can probably guess why the heartbeat is hard to hear. Now think REALLY HARD!!! Got it? Doubt it. That is so sad, and you better read more about hpertension in prenancy and gestational diabetes. You know who I'm talking to. Yeah, you, with absolutely no self-esteem, you. You think everyone is on your side, but from the convos I have had with THINKING people, they had the same things to say about your health and the health of that baby. But as long as it makes you feel important, that's all that matters, right. Good Work. I guess I should be in my own dreamworld because of my baby. But wait, I don't have to just dream it. I am successful, and my husband is VERY successful. So, we are great, with a wonderful doctor, and soon I'll be doing the nursery, which so far looks incredible in the stencils.

Good luck sharing your room for the first year with the infant. Six months maybe, but a year? Oh, that's right. You know so much because many of you think just because you gave birth it means you are a good parent. I've taken kids to foster care from these "good parents", with teen habits and not a dollar to their name.

Keep procreating if you want. For some that I know of on here have no other way to have any distinction in their life. So sad. Great work, and so hard to find!!!

 

[QUOTE=HippyFreeksMomma,

But to say that you are going to be a good mother to your child, lady at your age you can be a good grandma to your own child.

I think I know who you are. Yes, at the age of 34 I will be a grandmother. Only if I was like these stunners, and had my babies in adolescence and had no other goals. I don't care of your opinion. You mean nothing to me. I am alowed to express what I feel is a big joke to all these "moms" that think they will be wonderful. And if any of you are grandparents in your thirties, like the genius just said, it only proves the point that you had your baby way too early. And I will be in my midthirties. You can't even add correctly. You probably had yours at age twelve,so you judge people that waited until things were as right as they could be to bring a baby into this world. You are jealous, that is the real answer. I wil be able to school my child anywhere, take them to mind expanding places, and with both of our brains, it will be brilliant. Everyony in my family is a Mensa member. Do you know what that is? Look it up. It really means that we are in the top percentage of I.Q.'s And nobody answered as to how well you would handle your child with severe defects when you can hardly afford gas for your car, if you own one. You won't be able to have the things and therapists and doctors that it will need. Hopefully it will not come to that, but you must always be ready for anything. And I am. What an idiotic remark about me being a Grandmother to my own baby. Even if I was, I would make a better one than you I bet. Get a clue and a life without getting pregnant every year. Get a more useful hobby then just screwing and having babies you can't possibly handle. Get a clue while your at it.
My baby will be born into a funny, loving, respectful,caring, brilliant family. If you only knew who my sister is, hahaha, you would be laughing out of the other side of your face. You could only ever wish that someone with her power would be your child's aunt. My child will have a wonderful life, as long as he or she never runs into you or your children, but I doubt that very much, as the home that we are soon to start building will have a gate so you must be buzzed in when begging for money. I can't even believe that some of you are going to ask for donations on this so that you can at least afford ANYTHING!! You can count me in for oh, twenty-five cents. That is how much you have earned. What, snow cones aren't making you wealthy? Surprises on that. You are an inspiration to all layabouts who are pregnant with no real plans or future.
And I don't have any problems with my health in having my baby. I KNOW, even when you denied that you are going to have some problems,just by me being in the delivery room so often. But, I know that an OB-GYN wouldn't just give you news that you want to hear, so many of you go to unethical mid-wives who will tell you that you are doing perfectly when you really need the help of an M.D. Oh yeah, my brother is a doctor too, so my baby will be born into the family it deserves, not just over-weaning egos.

I have known women who have had babies into their fifties. I'm not saying that is great, but at least they really thought hard and saved some money to raise the kids, probably with help at that age. Well, an aupair at any age is a big help. I wouldn't try into my fifties ,but I have about twenty something years until I reach middle fifties.

 

cheshirecat, you are a horrible, horrible woman. Who the hell do you think your are? You have ZERO right to come here bashing nearly every member of this freakin forum. You know NOTHING about us, our financial or social status, our friends, our parents, our relationships, our homes, our children...NOTHING!!! Just because you met HF one time, does not mean you know everything about her and her family. Oh, wait, I forgot, maybe since you some sorta of freakin genius, you do actually know everything, right? Like the background of everyone here (coo-coo). Oh, let me bow to you now. You should be ashamed of yourself, and your rainbow family should be ashamed of you for showing so much HATE and ANGER towards others that you don't even know. I'm sorry that your child will be raised with such hate in her genes. That's sad, she was never given the chance. I hope she learns right and wrong from her schoolmates and her friends.

HF, you have a FANTASTIC family! Don't let this crazed lunatic get you hormones in a bunch

 

Obviously, your lack of respect for any person other than a professional individual such as yourself shows what a selfish, cruel, and heartless individual you are. My original comment was not a need to have people look at me, but a defense of my friends on this board, soft-spoken people that might have read your comments and taken offense at your assumptions and accusations towards women that think more of child-rearing than they do of professional degress, that obviously don't make you a kind individual.
And of course, you kept your secretary up all of New Years Eve defending your views, watching her typos but still not letting her get home to her family or any celebration she had planned. Of course. I'm sure it was just you sitting at your computer, drinking glasses of wine, and becoming evermore spiteful with each drink.
As far as my mother goes, she started young at 18, but not only did she not have a child every year, but each of us read, talked, walked, as well as other developments on time if not early. Our lack of funds didn't hold anyone back. While I might not be doing much at the moment, but in high school and my four semesters (so far) at college, I did many good things, including attending conferences in Washington D.C. that I EARNED WITH MERIT and not just my parents money. And even if I'm a horrid example, my little brother is far more worthy of praise than you could imagine. He's in Missouri Academy, a university program that promises him a A.S. degree in mathematics along with his high school diploma, and better credentials for being accepted into any university in the country. But he's not one to brag about anything he has the potential to acomplish. At 17 years old, he's wise, charitable, honest, and willing to offer kind advice and a hand-up if needed. Being raised by a mother that hadn't even a high school diploma, yet managed to raise him to be as successful as any student, no matter the funds, has shown him a lot about how wrong societal standards can be.
And I'm sorry to hear that you think my midwife must be scamming me because she tells me nothing is wrong. I know I will have to work extremely hard to see my child safely into this world, as my SIZE is so incredibly large. However, so far any test she's given me has come back proving me to be healthy. And she's not my only health care professional.
Anyway, what I really want to comment on, and this will be my last comment, truly, is that you seem to put a lot of stock into what society tells you to be correct, whether society be an 8 year old child laughing at your clothing or an adult telling you that you are not worthy of much if you are not a mensa member with a graduate degree. However, as far as I've been able to see, Rainbow people weren't about what society deems worthy. They don't care about K-Mart clothing or degrees. They are about strength of spirit and charity towards your fellow man. They are the people, like one of the visitors to the potluck, that in spite of having near nothing of their own to offer, they offer themselves, whether it be an ear to listen or a hand to steady them while they try to build themselves up. They are the ones that respond in times of crisis, such as Katrina, without government subsidy and offer kind words to people that have nothing much else. I'd been looking forward to meeting these people, to watch how kind fellows interact and impart good will on each other and anyone else. I'm not living in a dream world to think this. Most other forumer-rainbow goers have said as much as I have. They will be the reason I still yearn to attend these events.
I don't know if your mother and father were young when they had you and you had a bad experience with it. If so, I'm truly sorry. However, in my experiences as the child of a young, uneducated, single mother, I saw strength of spirit come through in times of financial crisis. I have seen 8 year old children with twenty dollars from a distant family member spend their Christmas funds trying to buy for some other needy child. I have seen the wonderous things that can be accomplished when people stop thinking of the poor and young as scum and begin to lift them up to see their own potential. Telling a person that they will never accomplish anything will land them just that. However, showing them that they can still do whatever they set their mind to, even if they have no money, no hope, and a brood of children to support will get you strong, intelligent, and caring individuals. Maybe not mensa intelligent, but smart enough to see that people need kind words and not "HARSH REALITY" to see them through crisis. I've lived harsh reality. I know what lies ahead for my family. I know the chances of anything being accomplished are not in our favor, but I also know that above anything else, we have a strong support system, willing to say nice things or kick us in the booties, whichever we need. We will survive and will live to see another day, poverty-stricken or not, so that others will see that living doesn't necessarily mean a huge guarded house and 3 professional degrees. Life, and not survival, can happen in a small unheated home, with three children and a mother with no furniture because they have love and love is all you need to keep you together until help arrives.

 

HF~I'm sorry that this psycho has srarted all this crap.

That sucks that you have to defend your life to such a bitch. I hope you aren't worrying about this too much. You and your family will be fine, better than fine. Your baby will have so much love.
Stay happy!

 

well, it pains me to know that a lady that acted so kind and caring to my face (as we have met) can turn around and spout nothing but hatred. An organizer of Rainbow anything just shouldn't be willing to say anything so horrid.
The only reason I kept defending myself is because I know that there are some ladies that read this forum but do not say anything. And instead of letting them see madness and spite triumph, they need to see that someone stands up for themselves when there is no hope. People far more important to me have tried to tear me down and not succeeded. I have a loving mother, a gentle fiance, and two loving brothers that are willing to see me through whatever I decide to do with my life. They know I can do whatever. That's all I need, or anyone else on this forum.
Other people should speak up as well. Maybe if enough of us decide to throw our voices out there together, we can drown this negativity.

 

Very well said HF!

I agree with RS, your babe already has so much going for them. Keep your chin up and a big ol' smile on your face

Peace

 

I think it might be best to start this thread over again as it did have merit before turning into such a mess. Should we just lock this one and start a new one?