Pot and pregnancy

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by purple_granola, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. lynsey

    lynsey Banned

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    uhm i think not smoking pot when you're pregnant is reasonable and what any decent mother would do. If you are more into drugs than the welll being of your child you should not be a parent. And then who gets to take care of your child who now has a disability becaue you have no self-control? people like me who have to get their heart broken seeing kids with fetal alchohol syndrome get teased because mom couldn't put down the bottle. Bad day for me I saw too much today more than I can handle without exploding on everyone who willingly abuses their child. If I knew of someone who was smoking while pregnant I'd call cps in a heart beat. call it obnoxious but i call it caring for an innocent kid more than a fucked up and selfish mother.
     
  2. KBlaze

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    Though everyone has answered, I feel that I should say you would be better off not doing any substances of any kind. Meditate and keep your thoughts and emotions pure. What you are going through is the most "holy" thing in the Universe. Keep it pure and positive and loving and your baby will be the most beautiful thing ever to come into your life. Then after s/he is born, you can get really stoned since it'll have been 9 months.
    That's my opinion.
    You're welcome.
     
  3. Orsino2

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    I don't think people should even have to ask... if there's any risk at all, don't do it... not for you, for your child.
     
  4. Lilyrayne

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    Not sure if this helps any, but I am gonna weigh in here...

    I found out not too long ago that my mom smoked pot when she was pregnant with me. She told me that she always wondered if the problems I have in life were because of that.

    I was born with a birth defect in my inner ears that over the course of my life, caused me to lose most of my hearing and struggle with vestibular illnesses. My quality of life was never very good and I have always been at a huge disadvantage and always struggled harder than anyone else, even to this day. The birth defect did not manifest itself until I was about 4, and the birth defect itself was not even discovered until I was 24. I am now 25.

    So in other words, my mom spent the last 21 years of her life always wondering if it was her fault that I suffered so much and had such a hard life. She felt guilty and blamed herself even though she didn't know the answer. When she learned that I had a birth defect in my ears only a year or less ago, I think she decided that it WAS the pot that caused it and she now blames herself officially. However I've heard as many opinions that pot doesn't cause problems as much as I have heard opinions that it does cause problems.

    The truth is me or my mom still don't know the truth as far as whether or not her pot use during the pregnancy is what caused all my problems, but the point of this post is that whether or not it does cause problems for a baby, do you really want to risk feeling guilt and sadness for the rest of your life if somehow the baby ends up having problems?
     
  5. sugrmag

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    Risks aside-your doctor can test you for drugs WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT. If they find marijuana in your system, you may go to jail and your child may be taken from you. Think about it.


    I'm pretty sure most of the risks come from smoking. The same as cigarette smoke. If you eat it, you can use it to cut down the nausea. But please don't smoke it.
     
  6. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    What I am calling obnoxious is the claim that women should have to have a license to be pregnant.

    Comparing alcohol consumption with pot smoking during pregnancy is just ignorant. And for reasons so obvious I don't even have to mention them. Fact is, studies have seen very little effect of pot smoking on the fetus - and this is only been shown on rats. Other studies on children subjects show little result, and those results are questionable because they don't consider other outside factors in the studies.

    Are we going to be just as tough on mothers who don't stick to strict nutritional diets when pregnant? Will we start to call them bad mothers? Their babies suffer the chance of low birth rate, diabetes and other defects. So is the mother abusing her child when she sends her husband on a late night ice cream and pickle run? What about mothers who live in more polluted cities, or near nuclear plants? If they don't pick up and move they are they abusing their child? What about the mothers who eat lots of fish like salmon, causing mercury to condense in the placenta? Is that child abuse as well?

    Fact of the matter is, this knee-jerk reaction comes from the fact that pot is illegal and the focus of the "war on drugs" here in the US, and there is a highly publicised plethera of exaggerated or completely false infomation and mis-information being spread regarding the effects of the drug on the human body. But anyone who is so against the pot smoking during pregnancy should also be all over women who don't practice a prefect diet or a million other little things.

    My sister is pregnant right now, and without healthcare. She can't afford the blood thinners she needs (she has factor 5) because it would cost her $1,100 a month. She could take out a loan or something to get the money, but instead is taking asprin and hoping for the best. Of course, some say that asprin shouldn't be taken during pregnancy and poses potential health risks to the baby. Is she abusing her child? Would you not give her her "pregnancy license" if it were up to you?

    So rather than telling a mother that she basically shouldn't be one, or that she is abusing her child, or that she isn't decent maybe you should give her some decent information on the subject so she can make an informed decision.
     
  7. lynsey

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    uhm...do you think I had a serious plan and was in the process of lobbying for parent licenses?...or do you think that maybe it was a common figure of speech? And marijuana causes numerous learning disabilities- it's my field trust me i know. But I appreciate you taking me completley literally heh I wish people around here took me that serious heh. And yes, those expecting should insure that they get proper nutrition. Damn I'm such a bad person advocating for no drugs and healthy eating while pregnant, I'm fucking awful shoot me.
     
  8. KBlaze

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    "My sister is pregnant right now, and without healthcare. She can't afford the blood thinners she needs (she has factor 5) because it would cost her $1,100 a month. She could take out a loan or something to get the money, but instead is taking asprin and hoping for the best."

    thank you for proving yet again that our currency systems are now destroying us as a people.

    best of luck to your sister.
     
  9. Shaitan

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  10. Sera Michele

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    It isn't advocating healthy eating and no drugs during pregnancy that is the problem. It is the fact that it just isn't realistic to expect all mothers to do everything 100% perfectly and safely during their pregnancy, and that they are abusive or unfit if they don't. You wern't being helpful, you were being judgemental and rude. The OP came to this form to ask questions with her unborn child in mind, and that is enough to tell me that she has her child's well-being at heart - she was just trying to figure out if her child's well-being and one of her own desires would mesh. She doesn't need to be berrated with claims that she is selfish, somehow unfit, abusive, or unworthy of being a parent because she is asking for information and opinion. Insulting her parenting ability (especially when you don't even know her) is not how you help a person.
     
  11. Shaitan

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    RE: She doesn't need to be berrated with claims that she is selfish, somehow unfit, abusive, or unworthy of being a parent because she is asking for information and opinion.

    I don't think that's the case. I think the majority of responses indicated that it was the taking of drugs during pregnancy that was selfish, irresponsible, etc. not that the OP per se was that.
     
  12. lynsey

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    Oh I'm sorry you must work with kids who's parents fucked up their developmental abilities on a daily basis-not me. You must work in this field-not me. You must have to work 10, 12 hours a day sometimes to try and get parents to do the right thing-not me. You're right you're the child professional lol.
     
  13. lynsey

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    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    I was talking about this specific post:

    Which I found to be very insulting, and I am not even the OP. This was obviously a direct insult to the pregnant mother that posted here. Lynsey and I seem to be on the same side of the fence as far as not taking any risks with your child's health, we just have opposing views on how that opinion should be presented to pregnant mothers.
     
  15. Sera Michele

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    Sorry honey, but you don't know much about me or my life experience.

    I would think that any "child professional" would act more professional and less like a child, making insulting comments to a mother that is actually seeking information when it comes to her pregnancy.

    But good for you, you get to be a child professional and shove it in the face of anyone who disagrees with your point of view and dislikes your attitude.

    Did they ever teach you in school that being aggressive and insulting when delivering an opinion just may turn those advice-seeking parents away from your paticular advice? You aren't helping this mother with your insults and arrogance.
     
  16. Shaitan

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    RE: this is why they need a license for becoming a parent..I am so sick of all the selfish people in this woprld...oh me me me grow the fuck up you're pregnant and you decided to keep it now be a decent human being

    You have to understand that she's not necessarily referring all that vitriol to the OP.

    She's probably dealt with kids whose mothers were actively huffing glue or drinking to major excess night after night. People who don't value their own lives never mind the ones they're carrying with them.

    It's really difficult when dealing with the whole mother-child stuff because

    1) The baby is a human being. It needs care, attention, comfort and nurturing however

    2) The mother can't be just a grow-bag for the little sprout, sacrificing her entire well-being.

    There is a balance. I mean, in Europe pregnant women drink 2 glasses of wine a day and there doesn't seem to be that much of a problem. Binge drinking is NOT that good an idea. But there are those who see a woman who's pregnant drinking a glass of wine with dinner and scowl at her for "risking her baby".

    You read the question as "do I really have to give this up? I mean, if research suggests it's not teratogenic then why not?"

    Some read it as "I would rather do drugs than take care of the well being of my kids."

    I hate to say this but the latter attitude is something in need of a tune-up.

    My only comment was "get used to it, because you can't be stoned around little kids."
     
  17. lynsey

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    Exactly I can't be agressive and tell parents 'i think youre a piece of shit for fucking up your kid' I have to be polite and tolerant, which is hard for me. So if someone is consedering fucking up there kid and I don't have to be professional damn straight I'm gonna let out my rage from the fucke up parents here who I have to tolerate and anoonomously report to cps.
     
  18. Shaitan

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    Well, part of it is that two people will hear the same message two different ways.

    One is a plea for information

    the other is an admission of disregard for the kid.

    It's equally right that one should not jump to conclusions that the OP doesn't care for the wellbeing of her kid and wouldn't totally abstain if there's evidence that it's harmful, but also you're totally right to suggest that her attitude, whether because of naivete or outright indifference, is NOT very healthy.

    With all due respect and without being judgmental, let's take a few breaths and look at the facts as they are, but also the motives in question.

    Maybe the OP will come back with "I don't care if it makes her grow another arm it's about me me me" in which case, please, let her have both barrels.
     
  19. lynsey

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    and don't call me honey unless you're fucking me or family:) or else I take it as passsive agressiveness, which it obviously was.
     
  20. Jennifer19

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    ......................................

    well said
     

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