"Post=Same instrumentation different purpose" Your gonna have to explain this ^ Post-rock is the next level of rock. Post-metal and post-rock are the same thing. In post-rock theres metal, and in post-metal theres rock. Isis is post-rock aswell as all the bands that have the same feel and sound.
'The next level of rock'? What the hell does that mean? Post-Rock is Rock instrumentation but without the typical characteristics of rock, like penatonic scales, a strong backbeat and vocal melody. Same for Post-Metal...Except switch Rock's characteristics with Metal, hence the difference.
What I've heard of post rock and metal bands is that they cross over a lot of the time between metal and rock. It isn't always easy to say a band is post rock or post metal, so in my opinion Isis can be called both. I generally don't dig both genres though, nor the genre names. What if there comes another newer rock sound, would it be named post-post rock?
I know Asmodean, thats why I don't like the genre name. 'The next level of rock'? What the hell does that mean? If you are aware of the english language you will come to realize the exsistence of sufixes. One of which would be called "post" or after. Post-rock, after rock. A new level. Wow, I didn't think it was that complicated. "Post-Rock is Rock instrumentation but without the typical characteristics of rock, like penatonic scales, a strong backbeat and vocal melody. Same for Post-Metal...Except switch Rock's characteristics with Metal, hence the difference." This is bull shit. 1. Even though its not typical rock it is in fact still rock and roll 2. Scales, chords, riffs, notes are all used aswell as strong backbeats and vocal melody. Your the one thats confused.
Post-Rock doesn't have strong vocals melodies and backbeat. That's the point. Post-Rock isn't 'the next level' of rock, it's just a term for bands that play Rock, but without most of the typical characteristics of rock. Metal and Rock sound different, hence Post-Metal and Post-Rock are different.
well I clearly challenged your vast array of bands that have no melody or backbeats that should be considered in the post-rock genre.
ok for some reason it's really hard to explain both of the genres for you guys? Do none of you play instruments? Post-rock typically has clean guitars, long drawn out songs, not in the typical song format (but still in a format usually). Lots of build-ups musically (slow crescendo changing into loud emotional heavier parts, but not heavy in the sense of metal, grunge, sludge, etc) and let-downs. Usually the songs try to play on emotion instead of a singer telling you how to feel. These are all just the typical characteristics, most post rock bands have their own uniqueness to them. Post-metal is very similar to post-rock in that they have longer songs, drawn out melodies and riffs, and less emphasis on vocals. They are different in that there seems to be way more of metal feel to the songs. I.e. listening to metallica vs foo fighters. It's just heavier on average than a post rock song. Also, distorted guitars are way more popular to use for post-metal. Essential the two genres are really just splitting hairs for the sake of it. There's a blurred line between which genre bands fit in, because some post rock/post metal bands have both types of elements in their songs.
I agree with you on all of that. It's just I realized arguments about genres are fucking retarded haha, so I wasn't going to bother. But thank you for taking the time to spell it out for everyone.
There is no difference between post-rock and post-metal. Keep trying to persuade me...it isn't going to happen. lol, "Do none of you play instruments?" YOu don't need to play instruments to understand that post-rock and post-metal are pretty much the same thing.
its funny mr cat guy, many post rock bands I listen to incorperate both metal and rock. This whole arguement si like calling a stone hard. A stone is already hard, by saying a rock is hard is just stating the obvious. Theres no metal without rock, end of story.
I don't know about that. Metal can stand on it's own in a lot of ways. But I guess with post rock and post metal I have to agree. Most of the times it's mixed.
Post metal and post rock are as different as Stoner Metal and Stoner Rock. Songs are heavier in post metal. Saying theres no difference between the two would be ultimately the same as saying theres no difference between rock and metal. If you can throw on an Ac/Dc album and a Sadus album and not hear much of a difference....
Theres a difference, just not enough for it to be seperated. I do agree traditional Metal and Rock and roll have completely different sounds. When it comes to post-rock and post-metal many of the bands mix both aspects.
ergh. Perhaps to please those who are anal about their genre classifications, there should be a new genre for such bands. PostX2-MetalRock or something outlandish like that. lol.
