Poll(serious one today)How "dead" is dead?How do u define dead?

somebody is dead when is forgotten.
no matter if is physically no more or still is in existence.

 

I think someone is dead when they stop following their dreams.

 

When you've been embalmed, there is no turning back. Unless you are a zombie, and I will be forced to shoot you in the head for my own safety.

 

It is f'd up to post this and then not explain your own definintion sir.

i think someone is dead when everything physical stops working, i dont know what option that'd be, but ill go with when the doc pronounces them dead

 

You forgot the option that no one dies.

 

yeah I was a bit short of options.
That is a very valid answer.But I mean when does the physical body die.

Maybe one day,we'll be able to "trap" a soul and build a body for it.
But to me, thats raising the dead after they've really died... I think..?

I wanted to stimulate the debate 1st by giving some possible options.

My definition is when the physical brain cannot be repaired via physical means in the future.It does not depend on the state of current medical knowledge.

So someone could have "died" a few days ago, and I believe their brain could be repaired say in 40 years time.If it was then deep frozen til science progresses.

So by my definition, people are being buried "alive".

The point of my post, is that there is no strict definition of "dead".

 

among all people, no, but for some people (like me) yes, there is.

in the period that a brain is frozen and not functioning, what do you call that state?

personally, i think what you're saying is possible, except i would say that someone has died, and if the brain is resucitated years later, then its "brought back to life" but for the time in between - that brain aint livin

 

True you can be brought back from the "dead".

We're told we only bury "dead" people ie "people who can't be alive again".
But is that *actually* true?

 

they can't be alive again without the work of scientists. buried in a coffin, there is 0 chance that it will come back to life by itself because its dead. and if intentions were to take a brain and resucitate it, it would have to be frozen, not buried.

 

That reminds me. Back in the 1700's there were so many people buried alive they started including bells with strings down to the coffins so if a person was mistakenly buried they could ring to let the grave digger know.

 

Sylph
Yes, correct thoroughout IMO.But in some countries people are buried one day after being certified dead.
I think that they are not really dead ie they could be repaired and resus'd in the future.

Monkey
Its happened in recent times too..People knocking in coffins( seriously)

( Chris I'm probably gonna have *horrible* dreams tonight...)

 

But only with outside intervention. If not really dead, then what do you call them? do you believe some part of them is alive? or how about: someone "dies" and is brought back to life. then they die again. are they dead yet? technically there could always be the possibility of resucitation, but im just curious as to way you hesitate to use the word "dead". to me it just means "not alive." for you, it obviously means something else - gone forever?

 

cryogenic freezing does work, it's just cryogenic freezing doesn't work well.

water forms sharp crystals, and being mostly water, we get ground, and cut up most harshly by ourselves

it will work when we resolve that.

 

Dave
No-one worries about embroyos not freezing properly.

Just dehydrate someone beforehand.
Plus nanotechnology will solve alot of stuff on cell wall repair IMO.

The only issue is whether consciousness is actually some sort of electromagnetic phenomenon trapped in the bio-chemical matter.And whether that would disappear on freezing.If it did, I suppose it wouldn't matter, because thats proof of the "soul"?


Sylph
yes to me, dead should *only* be classed as "gone forever, NOW its time to bury them"