pitbulls

Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by deviate, Jul 21, 2009.

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  1. arthur itis

    arthur itis Senior Member

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    That sounds rather naive, to attibute the potential for "evil" to people, yet giving dogs a free ride. Sure, dogs don't have the intelligence to know that they are behaving "evilly", while people allegedly do. But I wouldn't credit people with that much intelligence myself. I think you're just scapegoating people.

    Whatever the case. You don't set 'gators midst people, unless you care more for 'gators than for people.

    A hungry dog in a bad mood is no fun at all. Blame all the people you wish, it's just a fact. Best thing in that situation is to restrict the dog, feed it, give it its own space to be happy, and don't expect others to be content if you bring it into their space, expecting them to "share".

    Our maltese was mauled by two greyhounds in a park that had been salvaged from the track. Can't blame them for their training, to chase small animals down to kill them. That was people's fault. But it was the fault of the owner to bring them into proximity with another animal without being able to control them. Cost us 4,000 dollars of surgery, and days of near-death, before our dog was back with us. We sued the owner of the greyhounds, and won.

    I'd call those greyhounds "evil", because they'd been trained to be. Someone instilled in them the potential to kill another innocent animal, just for looking small and vulnerable.

    But in the end, who is "evil"? We're all just the product of our evironment, our circumstances coming up. By and large, no one really knows what he/she is doing. :sad:
     
  2. Toby Stanley

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    I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on the subject, since the overall behavior of every domesticated canine is simply the result of the guidance and training, or lack there of, by their human guardians.

    I have known many types of dogs over the years and know in my heart that it is the evil predilection or indifference of man which is the root cause of any and all canine misbehavior.
     
  3. arthur itis

    arthur itis Senior Member

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    I'll agree to disagree, simply because I don't care to attribute blame, as much as find a solution. I don't believe the whole "King Kong" scenario,,i.e.,,the idealized "loving beast". Talk to the woman who got mauled by the chimp recently, the chimp who had been accepted by the community, the woman who is now missing a face and hands.

    I mean, why walk around with a loaded shotgun, when all you needed was a pry-bar?
     
  4. Toby Stanley

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    It is important to note that the most dangerous and deadly animal earth has ever known is man (the thinking monkey).

    In terms of blame, mankind in singularity has the power, control, along with the life and death over every other animal on this planet.

    It is important to note that a Border Collie is far more intelligent than any of the great apes and perhaps even man. More importantly, without dogs, we as a species would probably not have survived that past several ice ages.
     
  5. arthur itis

    arthur itis Senior Member

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    Man is only dangerous because he has a greater potential for inventing and creating devices and situations that bring other men and animals into harm's way. It isn't the fault of man that he has that potential, but only if he acts upon it.

    Same with dogs. It's not the pit's fault that he has the potential to kill. It's not about blame, but about potential.
     
  6. arthur itis

    arthur itis Senior Member

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    By the way, it has been common knowledge that a chimp, having 9 times the strength of a man, has the capacity to rip off arms and legs. A well-known supplier of animals for movies said that the two most dangerous animals in his compound were the chimps and the cape buffalo.

    But it's due to the stupidity of the owner of the chimp, letting that potential to harm remain unrestricted, in a kind of naivety, that led to the "accident".

    Accidents happen. We, as humans, are supposed to be intelligent enough to plan for them. Some don't.
     
  7. 90 paces west

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    He's gunna be sooo Handsome!
     
  8. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    dogs are animals. ANY DOG, ANY BREED, can bite/attack any time. That does not mean dogs are bad. Does not mean they should be banned.

    I have a chocolate lab. You don't see them all over the news for attacking or biting, am I right? Well my chocolate lab was one of the most aggressive dogs I've ever met up until she started getting older. (I'm talking... she was about 9 or so before she started calming down) Far more aggressive than any of the pitbulls I've met thus far in life.
    (and still I don't love her any less for it.)

    And it wasn't our fault, either. It isn't always the people and the environment. We had her in strict dog training, we never neglected her, we are very loving, and were always very structured about everything.

    Dogs are just dogs, plain and simple. Dobermans, pitbulls, etc. aren't any worse than the little weiner dog that lives next door and vice versa. When will people realize...
     
  9. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    I didn't, but would have. there is no way I want to rescue an adult pit dog not knowing it's history. a friend of mine did that, and he locked onto her arm twice and a friends leg once before she had him put down. however, my weimaraner is a rescue. as well as past dogs and my girlfriend's cats.

    yeah, there are a lot of dogs in humane societies and rescue leagues.. but there is no need to get judgmental about people who want a puppy and to know what bloodline they are getting.
     
  10. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    thanks :)

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  11. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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  12. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    *melts*
    awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
     
  13. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    Beautiful
     
  14. natural philosophy

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    deviate that's such a cute pup. pitts are so much fun when they're little pups. such clowns
     
  15. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    It's even more fun when you have to call five or six people over to pry their jaws off your newborn! The whole family gets to be involved!
     
  16. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    nah, that's what breaksticks are for.

    :rolleyes:

    thanks to everyone who left positive comments.
     
  17. mystik_lilac

    mystik_lilac Super Moderator Lifetime Supporter

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    It is quite obvious that this thread will continue on in a debate. I for one think your dog is beautiful and I hope you have a wonderful and happy life with him. I love the breed and I love rots. I think they are misunderstood, mistreated, and exaggerated by the media. (Like everything else in America's media. Just trying to scare us all.) I don't have either of those breeds, as I live in town and have a small house. I would also never consider one without having the extra money to go through obedience training. I know I don't have the dedication it takes to be a responsible owner of a powerful majestic dog such as a pit or a rotty.

    Just my opinion for what it's worth...


    Please remember to have him neutered for his own health and safety.

    This thread is closed.


     
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