Philosophical Notes...

the goblin too, reads whatever is going, adding "...odd isn't it, thousands of forums out there and all so plain text and dull by their sameness, whereas here we are but a few livewriters amongst the many book writers amongst those millions of everyday posters, and all that separates us from them is that we store our posts..."

 

Calderon de la Barca - prime philosophical statements:

Having forgotten one of the true and irrefutable statements, the Magician reinstated a previous post, now made complete.

 

"But none of those are true to anything beyond being statements!" laughed Dejavu.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDeY7iUd2Dw"]Source Direct - Web of Sin - YouTube

 

"Not at all" said the magician; "those are all existential facts."

"The first refers to the fact that we can know of nothing apart from the contents of our experience (epistemological solipsism).

The second refers to the fact that human nature is fragmented, a deferred, conflicting instinctuality, and thus all actions inevitably lead to feelings of regret/loss/trauma.

The third refers to the fact that living is an act, a representation of a social role, for oneself and for the others to admires; and not being admired is hell."

Thus spoke the Magician, wondering how tragic it was that such a brilliant philosopher had not been heeded as a philosopher, and thus the glory of the theater went elsewhere.....

 

"No," said Dejavu, "While it is true nothing is known outside of experience, that first statement only refers life to that of a dream."

"I can't see how it refers to that!" he laughed, "But say it did, as you have, how then does it follow from human nature, in its 'fragmentation' as humans, that all human actions inevitably lead to loss?!"

Dejavu was lenient on this third referral, though not on the statement, from which a certain hardness was lacking, that would have hold through all meaning and not be cast away as are all formative graspings of the poetic. "All the world's a stage, but not all are merely players, for life survives sans script, that not everything betray us."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2f0XBXo3aY"]TK Dramatic - Scarlet [Trouble on Vinyl 1994] - YouTube

 

("...just keeping you company now..." went the goblin listening in)

repost from elsewhere

"...well there you go everyone, just follow in xxxxx's footsteps now...." observed the goblin finanly seeing something that was not a one line soundbite which admittedly did seems the be accepted sorry standard on this forum alone, adding "...xxxxx, it's easy, the smarter ones pick up on the content, the dumber ones latch onto my persona, where I converse with the former and have fun with the latter, and where no one is ever asked to read my posts anyway, and yet look how they do, why, because the other threads are just as you see them while perhaps the line to remember is if you write like everyone else then like everyone else is all that it will be , so now you're almost there, all that remains is to answer the question of why anyone would narrate using dialogue adding a picture each time, and then when you've hit upon the answer, I'll respect you, or conversely you can continue to play dumb but I don't think you really are dumb by what you have written to date..."


xxxx

 

The Magician wondered how Dejavu could be so lacking in semiotic capacity...

"Because all choosing a desire implies a rejection of another... " said the Magician, remembering that he was the only one known to himself to have transcended and bettered the work of Jung...

 

"I don't wonder you wonder that, since my noting that dreams are a reality but not the only one. Or do I?!" laughed Dejavu, whose philosophical notes were not to be played out of key.

"To have bettered Jungs work you'd have to have been in his life. And have you bettered Jung himself? You're alive at least!" laughed Dejavu, waiting for the magician to attempt an explanation of how all choosing a desire implies the rejection of another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKW-U-8KuCU"]peshay - is it a dream - YouTube

 

"You will have to buy the book where I publish it, to see the explanation." Said the Magician; who now, like the alchemists of old, wanted above all to turn any baseness into gold.

 

For all his wanting, noted thedope, the Magician didn't much turning, except for his own head in pursuit of shiny things, hoping instead it is said that he be read for a fee, And it seemed to thedope that an alchemist of any worthy formula would keep his chemistry up to date.

 

The Magician wandered what thedope thought he was saying, but didn't care enough to care much.

 

thedope noted that the Magician was slight of hand, (perhaps a professional affectation,) and weak at liberating his care being more careless than carefree. "The world is equal to your regard in every instance," said thedope, "and choosing between dreams, whether you find them pleasant or unpleasant, tarnished or shiny, never leads beyond their fiction."

 

"Easiest shit ever turning faeces to specie in an age that considers itself fertilizer." laughed Dejavu. "There's even a proverb for rubbing it in with, that it takes it to make it. What you want figs is the philosophers stone, the wage of mages from all ages. We're all only equal to our own regard, our dream chosen with a view to its realization." Was it possible Dejavu was wide awake, relatively speaking?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhopRCAFQ2k"]Babylon Timewarp - Changing - YouTube

 

thedope doubted it was useful to come to an exactitude as to a specific level of probability regarding this issue. In terms of our relations sleep and it's attending fugues are a normal part of our diurnal cycle but hypnotic entrancement need not be. Dejavu seemed to be speaking of a specific quality of waking attention reflecting on this point. By hypnotic entrancement we mean imaginative role enactment. thedope hadn't known Dejavu to present himself other than frankly speaking although sometimes grandiose in the appreciation of the individual. So on those terms thedope did find Dejavu less a pretender than some.

 

"Your devaluation by way of pretended non-valuation of the individual is almost invidious thedope. " laughed Dejavu. "Sign of a jealous, poky personality some might say. Is it just mine, or any appreciation of the individual you find grandiose?" thedope claimed magnanimous 'intent', but not magnanimity, no doubt thinking it ignominious to do so in the false modestitudes and alleveling charitability of his chritianality. One thing thedope couldn't get enough of it seemed was coming to his own defence. A victim to the spectacle of the false accusation. Dejavu would indulge him, since it was no doubt healthier for him here amongst the third persons than loitering in the cloisters of the godly, the smell of which was still wafting from him. So thedope thinks he's more conscious than I! he thought. "Yes, we needn't imagine ourselves at all thedope, it's true. But then we needn't be alive either. Tell me of some who are less a pretender than I! And to what!" laughed Dejavu resoundingly in the close confines of written communication.

 

"Hey, I was responding to the question you asked Dejavu," enjoined thedope, "and am going farther than you asked. The esoteric answer as I stated it is yes you are wide awake, relatively speaking! Flesh out what wide awake means and what our relations are. Wide awake is not more conscious. Sleep is a state of consciousness. Wide awake relatively as I understand it is an aperture of attention. The hypnotically entranced are wide awake relatively as well but the aperture of attention is pretentiously focused claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit. There is nothing feeble about the power of the mind even under the effects of hypnosis. The largest proportion of individuals in the world today are pretentiously focused and it totally escapes them that whatever moves them to defense or puts them on offense is self generated. It is as though a sorcerer had put a spell on a flock of sheep so that he might consume tasty meals of lamb while having them present themselves to be slaughtered. He told them they were meat eaters, lions, tigers, wolves, doctors, lawyers, politicians, and fed them their own childhoods in teaching them to be or do some thing. I think you are overtly unaffected by this instruction and I have not met anyone less pretentious than you and I had to learn as anyone there is a difference between acting cool and being cool. However I have not met everyone and so I say you are less pretentious than some. As to my evaluations, they are not based on a sliding scale of preference but in distinguishing one thing from another and finding functional fit. It is just your appreciation of the individual I find vain. I think we create like ourselves but do not in fact create ourselves. I entered the world through no personal volition that I am aware of, not creating my own parents."

 

"Hey, double post"

 

"Just mine eh?!" he laughed. "And why do you think that? Because I think we create ourselves. Because you don't. Yet we do. And I'm not the only one who thinks it thedope! You must have an 'at first', an 'in the beginning', or bust? But what need has creation of your craving a first cause? Your parents must be exceptional people not to rank among ourselves!" He marvelled then at thedopes evaluation of his own evaluations as nonpreferential, as though his flings with function-finding were not to his taste! "In vain you find my appreciation of the individual vain, not being me thedope." Truly, Dejavu couldn't appreciate the individual enough. Humanity was dearer to him than any affected notion of humility. "The self is no sorcerer, but the source as far as we may regard such a thing. No-one I know who doesn't want us wired awake wants other than the scale of our judgement. In truth, there is no touchstone save our own." he said, in closing the aperture opening to all else what it had contained.

 

"In truth," thedope noted," our is the only pronoun that fits this true statement, for example your own or my own in the case of only doesn't work, there are no discrete realities but there are multitudinous corridors of refraction. While it is true that the view of your minds eye is a kingdom that you alone rule, separate self is a myth.
Yes Dejavu we are endowed preferentially but are you to suggest that our preferences are intended by ourselves? Do you suggest our function has been intended by ourselves? The fact that you like the taste of spinach or not is not unique to you but is a patterned response. What need would I have for everyone wired awake? The blind will follow the blind blindly and I can see them coming and simply step aside. Consciousness is for finding direction and we always choose with a guide. You don't need a sliding scale of judgment, a sense of good and bad, to organize your life and preference is not the organizer of mine, familiarity is. If you can't appreciate the individual enough then get to cult-ivating hero worshiper. Perhaps an ode by Zarathustra or a label of christinsanity or a spell spoken by the Magician."

 

"I speak for myself" laughed Dejavu. "My not being able to appreciate the individual enough only speaks for my not ceasing to appreciate it. No call for conflating it, as you have, with the myth of a separate self. Who else intends our preferences but us, christian? God? Does the pattern of my preferential response make it anything less than mine? As for what you think you see as the 'function' of consciousness, direction - what is it? Do we only direct like ourselves? Be careful not to divorce it from desire! Go thy mere way thedope, and may it be merry! We have self in common only through the individual." said Dejavu, with unflagging understanding.