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You would let your child die???



Then there isnt much point in debating any further

 

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i agree. im done with this convo too.

i dont agree with animals being used for the benefit of humans. period. thats how i would like to see the world changed. if that means that hypothetically, my child would have to die or i would have to die because there are no animals to test on, so be it. thats the way nature intened and thats the way it should be.you were assuming that i was going to say no...........

 

no i wasnt assuming you were gonna say no......but its really sad u didnt.....

A lab rat in no way will ever be as important as my child and its ludicrous to state other wise...Im glad we have animal testing and prosthetic devices .....hell even the vice presidant of peta has one.....stating "but its okay ....i need one......i need my life to save animals."

what bullshit

 

no its not sad. what sad is that you think that animals are here to serve us humans and that its ok to hijack their lives. thats what is fucking sad.

 

Would you let a child die?

What if you had a sick child and the only way it was able to get any better would be to use some type of medicine or medical procedure that was tested on an animal.

Sorry but I would choose the life of a child.

 

my point exactly......i think u meant to quote elle

 

yes i did, I appologize

 

ive already answcerd that question....see above.

im really done here.......there is no point in conversing with about this with you people....for me anyway

 

I don't think PETA has anything to worry about since animal experimentation will not lead to human cures anyway. So many people have this belief that testing on animals is necessary to save human life, when in reality it is nothing more than poor science. Animals are very different from humans in terms of anatomy, physiology and biochemistry. One cannot accurately relate the results of animal experiments to humans for these very reasons. Better, more reliable and accurate alternatives exist such as epidemiological studies, human cell experiments and clinical trials.

Don't get me wrong, I may like animals but I do not hold animal lives over that of human beings. If my life or anyone else's life depended on killing rats than that's what I have to do to save my life, but the truth is that this is not and will not ever really be the case.

 

brainless snobs over here
gooosh...

 

I think peta is full of morons who just want to make a big stink...

 

Please explain, ie list scientific references.

 

The quote in my signature came from a cartoon I saw during a lecture. The cartoon pictured a line of cows being herded into the slaughter house. One cow turns to the other and says the quoted line. I do not know who the artist for the cartoon is, so I cannot reference it. In case you were wondering, no the cow does not really speak English.

 

No, you didn't. You copped to a flawed philosophy and then turned tail and ran.

Way to stick to your convictions. We're all oh, so proud of you.

 

I think you're missing the point

 

actually i did answcer the question. if my answcer doesnt satisfy you then too fucking bad. when did you get the impression that i care?

and im proud of myself as well....as i am proud of anyone who sticks to their convictions.

see, i have better things to do than have debates on the internet.....ive got nothing to prove to the people here, my convictions have nothing to do with it. i didnt "turn tail and run". i simply dont give a fuck. but feel free to interperet things however you want..........

ASS

 

Omega Complex? Are you referring to essential fatty acids? I guess nobody told you that these are synthesized by plants, and not animals.

Actually, humans were near pure vegetarians about a few million years before the period in time you are referring to.

 

It was used for a lecture??? As for the scientific crediblity of the idea it is just a bit of wishful thinking.

 

Ah but the EFA's in plants are short chain types that have to be converted by the human bidy into long chain types to be of any use. It is therefore far more efficient to consume ready made long chain versions such as oily fish.

 

***NOTICE***
This text has been edited for the purposes of adding citations. Refference numbers will be in magenta, and all newly added text will be in blue.

Often times doctors and professors prepare their lecture in a PowerPoint presentation as a good way to organize their lessons and include graphics/animations to help emphasize their point. Sometimes, little pieces of humor are included to keep the student's attention. This cartoon was a bit of humor. The cartoon itself has no scientific credibility, but the underlying statement that meat consumption by humans can lead to health problems and premature death is indeed accurate and can be backed up.1 If you are suggesting that meat is healthy for human consumption, than you are the one doing some wishful thinking.2

Diets high in animal foods have been linked to many diseases such as colon cancer,3 breast cancer,4 prostate cancer,5 coronary heart disease,6,7 in addition to many other severe health problems.

Nonsense, the essential fatty acids in plants are more than sufficient and better than those found in fish. Consuming fish for the EFA's will package it with unneeded fat, saturated fat, cholesterol,8 and environmental toxins.9 Further, it has been shown that the EFA's in fish are unstable, prone to decomposition and unleash free radicals. Plant sources are the original and best source of essential fatty acids.10,11

1.) British Medical Journal 322(2001):841
2.) JAMA. 2000 Nov 8; 284(18):2322-2323
3.) JAMA. 2005 Jan 12; 293(2):172-82
4.) Prev Med 1978; 7:173-95
5.) Br J Cancer 1981;44:332-9
6.) Am J Cardiol. 1998 Nov 26;82(10B):60T-65T.
7.) Am J Cardiol. 2001 Aug 16;88(4A):16F-20F
8.) J Pennington. Bowes & Church's Food Values of Proportions Commonly Used. 17th Ed. Lippincott. Philadelphia-New York. 1998.
9.) Environ Health Perspect 2004;112:562-70
10.) Am J Clin Nutr 1991;53:177-8
11.) Am J Clin Nutr 1991;53:178