Permanent alterations in consciousness

Do it bill, I have gone from a pudgy out of shape sack to a mountain of bone and muscle in only a few months after getting that kick in the psychic arse from lucy. DPT helped me with that too, it's a great teacher of the Will.

Regarding what you were saying about trippers vs non-trippers, I think that people who tend to be in line with entities in this world like "enlightenment" tend also to be in line with entities in this world like "psychedelics". there is some obvious overlap there for sure.

I've always wondered though . . . are the changes from LSD and other things objective, or is it merely a propagation of who you already are? In other words, if Dick Cheney were given LSD, would he have a profoundly difficult trip and emerge from it very shaken and very dismayed at how he has lead his life etc, or would he emerge even better at being Dick Cheney? In other words, are psychedelics expanders of the Self you already are, or do they show a universal message?

 

it's up to you
you can use the experience to level-up your ego
or use it to level-up your soul

 

yes i think that it really can turn you into anything.. it lets your brain develop anew and it is possible that the developments will not all be good and in some people will incur a net depreciation of sorts. I think we all need to be wary about some of the ways that our mind can change after tripping - that sometimes we 'settle back' into reality with extra baggage.

I think if dick cheney tripped he might feel bad and either start drinking a lot, resign, kill himself, or do something totally random. But he also might go the other way and realise what he can do with whatever influence he has and try to make the world better. or he could strive to rule the world. Who knows? i would not associate psychedelics with improvement, i associate them with change though, with potential for improvement and potential for the opposite

and btw i got into liftin weights and put on like 5 kilos in a few weeks... but.. then i started socialisin and drinkin and smokin and i put off my routines because i got rather sick... i didnt get back into them! so its just a matter of me bootin myself in the arse. my boot is stoned though

 

Yeah man bill. Its all in the will. I always just tell myself "You have everything you need to lose weight, right here. Everything. All thats missing is the will, so WILL IT!"

 

well of course it's a universal message. everything in this reality is a universal message. all paths lead to unity of being. you can only stray from the path so far before karma slaps you in the face.

i think there is entirely too much hype surrounding lsd use. it naturally awakens people. what is so odd, or so incredible, about something so natural? we are all meant to shine, as children do. we were born to make manifest the glory of god that is within us. within all of us. so why is it so spectacular, or so incredible, when one person actualises this? this is our birthright, so why hesitate when faced with it?

these are what your permenant alterations in consciousness are. awakening. this life is a medium by which we experience our karma and eventually achieve enlightenment. taking entheogens can alter the medium by which you experience the same karma. but there is only one experience, and one medium. so what does it matter if we are brought closer to the truth?

a little over a week ago i experienced a trip in which i attained complete ego loss. there is something about watching your entire reality twist up and then melt apart that is just inexplicable. i still remember my former self, but it has all been shed away. i don't even know how to begin to say anything about it. im trying to write a trip report but progress is slow.

 

I think there are universal truthes regarding right and wrong.Those people that are close to the edge of the continuum of human behavior can go either way=extremely bad behavior or some kind of individual enlightenment according to their programming.Mostly, people,even bad people, would/do realise how screwed up their actions(simple or complex)are when they (we) dose and begin to make necessary changes ,so my guess is Dick Cheney would have a complete ,crying breakdown if dosed and beg forgiveness for how he has behaved during his life time.He's a strong personality tho,so he could emerge from a decent dosing,stranger than ever.Of course ,he could get very lost if his programming has been too strong to remove all the layers.----"You pays your money and you takes your chances"My 2 cents.

 

Dick Cheny would definalty be the guy who would turn completely mute...Walking around jaw-dropped in space

 

until someone would wake him up, most likley his lesbian daughter

 

"Awakening" is rare even among psychedelic users.

 

yes but it doesn't need to be. like i said it is our birthright.

 

I don't know about that.
It's something that must be realized.

 

semantics. the realization is our birthright.

 

yes. this is your mind returning closer to it's natural state. nothing unusual about that.

 

Call it semantics if you want, but I don't agree with you.
If it is our birthright, then why will you die without realizing it?

 

one might die without the realization because they are too wrapped up in their ego and just aren't ready. it takes time to prepare. without preparation the cosmic winds will tear you to shreds. but that isn't to say that there isn't more time to reach the realization. we have all the time that we need.

but alot of people aren't even aware that such a thing exists. what i am saying is that it is our birthright and our purpose to know of and consciously seek out awakening, so it should not be feared. it should be embraced.